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GSW wants their pick back.

margodydek

margodydek

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Sometime between getting booed by his fans and now, Joe Lacob (GSW owner) said that they "have had discussions with Utah on getting their 2012 1st rounder back." I'm sure these discussions were had at the trade deadline, but have obviously been shelved for the time being, and I would assume would pick back up at the draft (if we get the pick). I still think it's going to be close on whether or not we get their pick. Everyone is clamoring that with the Monta trade that there's no way we'll get their pick, but there are some pretty awful teams below them, and they'll most likely be tanking as well.

Margo's trade idea:

Send to GSW: Either Al or Paul (will be tough now that they have Bogut/Lee) + their pick

For: Curry + Biedrins + unprotected future 1st rounder
 
I don't know about the unprotected future 1st rounder, but I read a rumor that the Warriors would've preferred to deal Curry. If that's true, the Jazz ****ing blew it.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I don't know about the unprotected future 1st rounder, but I read a rumor that the Warriors would've preferred to deal Curry. If that's true, the Jazz ****ing blew it.
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Well let's wait and see if we get their pick, and what we get with that pick before we jump to that conclusion. Anyone who trades for Curry is taking a huge risk with his glass ankle. I'd hate to see the jazz trade for him and pull a Grant Hill.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
Well let's wait and see if we get their pick, and what we get with that pick before we jump to that conclusion. Anyone who trades for Curry is taking a huge risk with his glass ankle. I'd hate to see the jazz trade for him and pull a Grant Hill.
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The only established players the Jazz can trade are increasingly superfluous bigs. The Warriors went out and grabbed Andrew Bogut and David Lee in the last two seasons, so the dynamic that would have made sense no longer makes sense. But in the universe where you might be able to trade Jefferson for Curry and crap, you make that trade quick and with no regrets. If Curry's ankle ends up pushing him out of the NBA, the Jazz haven't lost anything significant in the longterm because Jefferson is not going to be - or shouldn't be - in the longterm plan anyway.

Now that GS has those guys, I don't know why or how these two teams make a significant trade.

Now, if we're talking about BEFORE The Warriors traded one of their superfluous and overrated perimeter players, EVERYTHING is different. If Curry was more available than Ellis, it would've taken LESS than trading an above-average center that is very frequently injured and a headcase on a bad contract. That's ****ing blowing it if the rumor I read was true.
 
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/219752/Warriors_Preferred_To_Trade_Curry

We'll see how this works out. I'd love to know the validity of this, but I probably never will. My impression is that unless Curry has actually torn any ligaments, there isn't a lot to be concerned with moving forward.

Either way, I just don't see the Warriors trading him unless they're getting a similar player back. The Jazz don't have one - let alone extra - of those players. This is just me dwelling on spilled milk.
 
I want to see how the owner responds to being booed. Mega millionaires have big time egos and big time egos cause guys to do big time stupid things. He may decide to give the fans something real to boo about and tank harder (although that may be difficult because the current group of tankers he has assembled is 1-4)

On the other hand he might go against all rationale, push Steph and Bogut to come back early and fight just to win a few home games.
 
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Golden State actually blew out the Kings after the trade. And in 3 of those losses, one of the games was overtime on the road, and two of them were lost by a combined 6 points.

I think the Warriors are better than they look right now. Ellis was trash.
 
I'm going to force myself to not worry about this pick anymore.

My new thing to look forward to is the Bell, Millsap, Jefferson, or Harris trade that will net us a lotto pick somehow. It'll happen, right? ...right?
 
Xsy said:
I'm going to force myself to not worry about this pick anymore.

My new thing to look forward to is the Bell, Millsap, Jefferson, or Harris trade that will net us a lotto pick somehow. It'll happen, right? ...right?
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Yeah ok lol.
I don't think there's too many teams out there that will trade a lotto pick for players that have reached there ceilings.
Although Millsap and Jefferson continue to prove me wrong on the fact that they've reached their ceilings altogether.
 
Even with Jerry West, Golden State is still a mess. They had a chance to keep Ellis, Curry, and Lee and get Chris Kaman, who they could re-sign next season or let walk. The Hornets were going to take Kwame Brown and Brandon Rush. Instead they give up Ellis, their best player, for oft-injured Bogut. Ellis, Curry, Lee, Kaman, and Klay Thompson/ Dorrell Wright would not be a bad starting 5.
 
Seriously, why do Jazz fans talk about getting Biedriens? The guy actually turned into Ostertag once he got his big contract. He has not done squat since then and he doesn't even like his teammates. I would scream bloody murder if the Jazz trade Millsap for this guy. The big decision is whether we keep Paul or AJ? I am ready to keep Millsap over AJ because Millsap does more things than AJ does. Favors and Kanter need to start play 25-30 minutes a night.

The Warrior owner seems like a knucklehead talking about this in the press. Besides the fact that if his team starts losing everyone will know he gave the order to tank. There is nothing on the Warriors' roster that I want except for a healthy Curry. Unfortunately he is not healthy so I have big reservations about him being healthy the rest of his career. The Jazz can get a better deal and I would never trade potential lower lottery pick for a low 1st and two seconds.
 
Did Lacob say this after he got booed last night? Sounds like he's trying to make up to the fans. And why are they so concerned about getting their old pick back when there are 13 other picks in the lottery they could go after?
 
The key is that the Warriors apparently TRIED to get their pick back. It didn't happen so they chose Plan B: trade their best scorer (Eliis) and their only real inside presence (Udoh) for an injured player and a chucker. They're getting the pick back because Cleveland, Detroit and Sacramento will all finish with better records. And don't count out Toronto or New Jersey. Both those teams can pick up 6-7 wins to finish the season while GS has a couple of long losing streaks.
 
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