Hillary's America
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What is it you think she'll do that will harm you?
My biggest problem with a Clinton presidency is that it guarantees the US's hawkish world-police approach continues unabated. So will the government expansion of domestic spying capabilities and other encroachments.
But at least she's pro-free trade, and she's not hostile to minorities.
Seems like it will be a slightly more liberal version of what it was like when her Husband was president. Mostly good and prosperous and some things I dont like but can deal with to get things I care more about get accomplished. It will be similar to Obama's tenure with a few less speeches and a lot more bi-partisanship like Bill Clinton did. Down side is that due to the Crazy Bernie support there are going to be a lot more things that she will support that I dislike and are not good for most Americans. For example the free college education stuff. Which is like most of Bernie's things, they sound good in speeches and theory but in practice dont accomplish what they claim or want. For example free education (more than already exists that Bill Clinton enacted and is not being used by most, especially low income and minorities) will predominately help out rich white Americans. Hopefully her presidency or Trumps if that happens, will help out the middle class. That is the group that heard a lot of promises from Obama and they were not delivered and were in fact hurt by most of his actions.
I assume since this is a babe thread my rambling is okay even if its on the short side. I am sorry I left out some very radical conspiracy theory or denied the existence of some well known and documented fact. Oh maybe I can make up one, lets see.
BTW Hillarys america isnt a real thing. You see Hillary is not a real person. It is actually just Bill who loved getting BJs in the white house so much that he created this alternate personality and person so that in the future he could run again and have 16 years as president. And we all know that Trump's campaign is not real its just a running joke to see how dumb america is and how long they can keep it the joke running.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qIQbydyHwc
I assume since this is a babe thread my rambling is okay even if its on the short side. I am sorry I left out some very radical conspiracy theory or denied the existence of some well known and documented fact. Oh maybe I can make up one, lets see.
BTW Hillarys america isnt a real thing. You see Hillary is not a real person. It is actually just Bill who loved getting BJs in the white house so much that he created this alternate personality and person so that in the future he could run again and have 16 years as president. And we all know that Trump's campaign is not real its just a running joke to see how dumb america is and how long they can keep it the joke running.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qIQbydyHwc
Yeah, you're doing babe a disservice if you don't at least mention how Trump is a Democrat conspiracy to ensure Hillary's election that backfired.
Fair enough. I didnt know if he was still on that one or moved on to a new one. I thought at some point he really liked Trump and supported him.
Jamezz
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What Siro said about her foreign policy.
And simply continuing dishonesty and corruption.
Scares me less than Trump's ...
It is funny to me that Bernie fans/Clinton haters are mad that some Democratic party members tried to figure out ways to prevent him from winning. Why wouldn't they? Mr Bernie is not a real democrat and would not be pushing their agenda and platform. Of course they wouldn't want him to win. Just seems logical to me from a parties viewpoint.
Also when is the last time we had an election that most people that were vocal hated both candidates and said they were choosing between the "lesser of two evils?" Same rhetoric every election. Only difference is that younger people have been more vocal this election via social media.
Jamezz
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What is in your view a real democrat?
If they weren't going to let him run, why let him run?
Jamezz
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How do you effectively keep someone from running? From what I see he just decided to run and try to push his political views which happened to be a pain in Hillary's behind, only then to pull down his pants and give his back to all of his supporters.
I used to respect the guy.
Not letting him run and not wanting him to win are two very different.
I also dont think they knew he would rise to popularity as quickly as he did and get so many young people active and behind him. No one saw that coming to this level, even Bernie.
I dont have a full definition that I want to post or research out, but basically anyone who supports their platform in office is a Democrat. Bernie does not fit that definition, nor has he ever. Bernie does not consider himself a real/full Democrat. Bernie is only a democrat relatively recently. He mainly joined to help give the democrats in the senate a majority because he was closer in ideology to the democrats than republicans. He has already announced he is returning to an independent when he returns to senate.
Bernie ran as a Democrat because he knew running as an independent gave him no shot at winning. So he tried to use the party to his advantage and a party would much rather that not happen. They want someone who going to help their party.
Trump is in the same boat as Bernie. That is why many Republican leaders worked hard against him and are still opposed to him. Leaders dont like him because he doesnt support their party and a lot of his ideas are not within their platform. This is why they are opposed to him more than that they think he might be racist, sexist or whatever else people are saying against him. Only difference is that Trump got way more votes than anyone else. If it had been close the party would have been able to steer towards another candidate.