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How much will Richard Jefferson be hated by Jazz fans?

bkralj said:
I expect no effort from him at all this season.
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If he plays a lot then I will probably hate him and corbin (unless there is an injury)
 
People are expecting Ty Corbin, the guy who played Kanter and Favors more than 30 minutes a combined total of 8 times between them last year, the guy who DNP'd Alec Burks for 22% of last season on top of getting limited MPG when he actually played, we're expecting this guy to be trotting out a starting lineup of essentially rookies, with no 'veteran experience,' overnight? Corbin will change his spots over the offseason?

Just because we've all come to a consensus of the direction that we need to be headed, and management has made some moves indicative of that, doesn't mean our coach is going to magically sequester these vets -- league proven vets -- into roles as bench warmers.

On a side note, I support starting Jefferson as it seems the only way to force Corbin's hand at putting Hayward at the 2, which I don't think he'd be able to come up with in his own.
 
infection said:
People are expecting Ty Corbin, the guy who played Kanter and Favors more than 30 minutes a combined total of 8 times between them last year, the guy who DNP'd Alec Burks for 22% of last season on top of getting limited MPG when he actually played, we're expecting this guy to be trotting out a starting lineup of essentially rookies, with no 'veteran experience,' overnight? Corbin will change his spots over the offseason?

Just because we've all come to a consensus of the direction that we need to be headed, and management has made some moves indicative of that, doesn't mean our coach is going to magically sequester these vets -- league proven vets -- into roles as bench warmers.

On a side note, I support starting Jefferson as it seems the only way to force Corbin's hand at putting Hayward at the 2, which I don't think he'd be able to come up with in his own.
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I hope, and think, you are wrong
 
infection said:
People are expecting Ty Corbin, the guy who played Kanter and Favors more than 30 minutes a combined total of 8 times between them last year, the guy who DNP'd Alec Burks for 22% of last season on top of getting limited MPG when he actually played, we're expecting this guy to be trotting out a starting lineup of essentially rookies, with no 'veteran experience,' overnight? Corbin will change his spots over the offseason?

Just because we've all come to a consensus of the direction that we need to be headed, and management has made some moves indicative of that, doesn't mean our coach is going to magically sequester these vets -- league proven vets -- into roles as bench warmers.

On a side note, I support starting Jefferson as it seems the only way to force Corbin's hand at putting Hayward at the 2, which I don't think he'd be able to come up with in his own.
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I expect Corbin to change his spots because he's just a puppet. No coach would trot out the lineups he did EXCEPT if he was being told to try to maintain or build trade value of the veterans. KOC had some deals set up contingent on Howard deciding to stick with his demand to go to the Nets. We know Millsap and Jefferson were shopped. Outside of Marvin, who is hurt, and Rush, coming back from an injury, there aren't vets we can offer teams. Jefferson and Biedrins have the same value whether they play or not (solely on the basis of being expiring contracts). I suspect the Jazz see Biedrins play a little simply due to expected foul trouble with Favors and Gobert being so raw. Jefferson might start due to Marvin's injury and wanting Gordon to play the 2 and have Burls come off the bench.
 
bkralj said:
I expect no effort from him at all this season.
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Oh, and to respond to your observation, I hope he gives little effort. That will mean more PT for Hayward, Rush, Burks and even Ian Clark, I have ZERO interest in seeing Jefferson or Biedrins get court time.
 
gregbroncs said:
There is a positive spin to this. If this happens Corbin is fired within 2 weeks and the franchise can really move forward. So those guys would start for 2 weeks max.
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Plus our acquisitions of Lucas, Jefferson, and Biedrens playing minutes is an almost certain top three pick.
infection said:
People are expecting Ty Corbin, the guy who played Kanter and Favors more than 30 minutes a combined total of 8 times between them last year, the guy who DNP'd Alec Burks for 22% of last season on top of getting limited MPG when he actually played, we're expecting this guy to be trotting out a starting lineup of essentially rookies, with no 'veteran experience,' overnight? Corbin will change his spots over the offseason?

Just because we've all come to a consensus of the direction that we need to be headed, and management has made some moves indicative of that, doesn't mean our coach is going to magically sequester these vets -- league proven vets -- into roles as bench warmers.

On a side note, I support starting Jefferson as it seems the only way to force Corbin's hand at putting Hayward at the 2, which I don't think he'd be able to come up with in his own.
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I don't think the jazz would've spent all that money for bottom dwellers and let all our vets go that are 100 times more talented and valuable.

I'm pretty sure the plan is to see what the young players can do, and if for some wired reason Ty doesn't play the young guys, he'll be out.

I'm betting the jazz have told Ty not to stress wins and losses, just improve his in game management, and help the c4 + Burke succeed. If this was any other year I'd probably agree, but everything the jazz have done screams the young guys getting a very long look. The biggest tell for me is the signing of Lucas. With a rookie pg the only pg on the roster you'd think the jazz with all that money would get a capable vet to start while Burke was brought on slowly.

Infection I hope this put you at some ease.
 
We will hate him this much!

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infection said:
People are expecting Ty Corbin, the guy who played Kanter and Favors more than 30 minutes a combined total of 8 times between them last year, the guy who DNP'd Alec Burks for 22% of last season on top of getting limited MPG when he actually played, we're expecting this guy to be trotting out a starting lineup of essentially rookies, with no 'veteran experience,' overnight? Corbin will change his spots over the offseason?
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I have my doubts too, even though with this lineup I feel he's forced to play all the young guys.

Still though, he has this bizarre unhealthy love affair with vets who aren't good. My sig isn't something I made up. He actually said that stuff. Anyone who actually watched the 1st quarter of the Bobcats game could see that Favors and Kanter were the only guys who played worth a damn that quarter, yet somehow three guys who did jack squat got praise.
 
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