Kamala Harris Drama?

[Gameface]

White House goes into damage control mode after reports of dysfunction in Kamala Harris' office

Editor's Note: This piece originally published on July 2, 2021.

www.cnn.com

(CNN)The White House dove into damage control this week after reports of dysfunction and infighting in Vice President Kamala Harris' office, with the administration trying to stop a drama-filled narrative from taking hold, according to five people who spoke to CNN about the dynamics within Harris' office.

Two people close to Harris' team said some individuals inside the vice president's office are frustrated with what they see as a dysfunctional operation that has been at times waylaid by internal conflict. Some of that ire is directed squarely at Harris' chief of staff, Tina Flournoy, those people said. Another source close to the staff said there were "challenges and struggles" and heard complaints about Flournoy from staff, but denied it amounted to dysfunction or that the tensions were directly Flournoy's fault.

Pre-emptive thread before certain posters say we're ignoring this or that certain news sources aren't talking about it.

We're not and they're not.

So, I'm rooting for Harris. I liked her more than Biden the entire time. I hope that her service as VP goes well and propels her to bigger and better things, possibly including becoming the first woman to be POTUS. My opinion of her is not set in stone. It can certainly change.

There are questions about where this drama is coming from and why. It is being called a whisper campaign simply to paint her office as dysfunctional.

So here it is. I'm bringing this up. I'm not ignoring this and CNN is not ignoring this.

If you've got an opinion on this I'd be interested to hear it.

 

[candrew]

This story is 100% a corporate media plant by big money.

Staffers being treated harshly?

Team infighting?

People being thrown under the bus?

In Washington????? Gasp!!!

Harris' Chief of Staff has cut off access from a lot of people who wrote a lot of big checks during the presidential campaign- and they're not happy about it.

This article is putting Harris on notice as to who really controls the narrative in this country.

 

[JazzyFresh]

Have you ever been to Europe though?

*Cackles like a crazed lunatic*

 

[Al-O-Meter]

There are questions about where this drama is coming from and why.

If I had to make a guess, and this is nothing but a cui bono guess with no evidentiary backing, this is Gavin Newsom’s people laying 2024 groundwork.

No one appears to be taking credit for being behind this which means it likely isn’t the product of a short-sighted narcissist like Trump or Andrew Cuomo. Hillary’s machine is more than capable but I get the feeling she’s done. If it were a second tier candidate, they’d be appearing everywhere just to get some name recognition and we aren’t seeing that at all. It could be Ron DeSantis but his shots appear to be aimed higher up and as a member of the opposition party he'd have nothing to lose by being public about backing this move.

I’m thinking it is Gavin. Being seen attacking a fellow democrat who also happens to be a female person of color isn’t a good look. Not taking credit would be politically shrewd if this is Gavin’s crew. His political machine is every bit as capable as Hillary’s. He’s got both Silicon Valley tech giant money and Nancy Pelosi’s political network backing him. Gavin has the ability and the motive.

I'm rooting for Harris.

If this is Gavin, then good luck with that.

 

[babe]

If I had to make a guess, and this is nothing but a cui bono guess with no evidentiary backing, this is Gavin Newsom’s people laying 2024 groundwork.

No one appears to be taking credit for being behind this which means it likely isn’t the product of a short-sighted narcissist like Trump or Andrew Cuomo. Hillary’s machine is more than capable but I get the feeling she’s done. If it were a second tier candidate, they’d be appearing everywhere just to get some name recognition and we aren’t seeing that at all. It could be Ron DeSantis but his shots appear to be aimed higher up and as a member of the opposition party he'd have nothing to lose by being public about backing this move.

I’m thinking it is Gavin. Being seen attacking a fellow democrat who also happens to be a female person of color isn’t a good look. Not taking credit would be politically shrewd if this is Gavin’s crew. His political machine is every bit as capable as Hillary’s. He’s got both Silicon Valley tech giant money and Nancy Pelosi’s political network backing him. Gavin has the ability and the motive.


If this is Gavin, then good luck with that.

Pretty hard to know a family feud arising say with Pelosi and a close relative. A lot of conservatives lump whatshername Jobs as Kamala's main backer, with perhaps some Brown nosers as well, but really this is one big "family".

I think it's nothing more than the Diva crapping on her own base. Because she can, and doesn't really care not to.

If there's a political angle it's gotta be Bernie's people in her ranks. or An Occasional Cortex worker bee.

 

[Red]

Just for the record:

“Gov. Gavin Newsom's aunt, Barbara Newsom, was once married to Ron Pelosi, Nancy Pelosi's brother-in-law. Barbara Newsom and Ron Pelosi divorced in 1977.

That means for a while, Gavin Newsom was related to Nancy Pelosi's brother-in-law by marriage, but the familial relation between the two now-powerful Democrats was even more distant. Not to mention, the marriage tying the two families together ended when Gavin was 10 years old”.

Are Gavin Newsom and Nancy Pelosi related? We explain

Here's how the two family trees connect.

abc7news.com

 

[Al-O-Meter]

That means for a while, Gavin Newsom was related to Nancy Pelosi's brother-in-law by marriage, but the familial relation between the two now-powerful Democrats was even more distant. Not to mention, the marriage tying the two families together ended when Gavin was 10 years old”.

It is a lot more than 1 short lived marriage. The family history ties of the San Francisco political elite go back a century.

How eight elite San Francisco families funded Gavin Newsom's political ascent

San Francisco's wealthiest have supported Newsom for decades, spending big on his political career since his earliest days in public office.

www.latimes.com

 

[babe]

It is a lot more than 1 short lived marriage. The family history ties of the San Francisco political elite go back a century.

How eight elite San Francisco families funded Gavin Newsom's political ascent

San Francisco's wealthiest have supported Newsom for decades, spending big on his political career since his earliest days in public office.

www.latimes.com

Politics often can be analyzed by "Follow the Money" information, but it is imo always something deeper. "Follow the Money" reduces the issues to something there is no cure for, something every political party/movement is gonna wallow in, so it doesn't really make any difference, and is worse than saying "There's nothing we can do" about our government.

Trying to interpret it all in moral terms, like the various themes about sex scandals or payola, is only another kind of ":Follow the Money": issue. Whether it's an Epstein isle or a SE Asia luxury dive, or a little "Bohemian Grove" near Santa Rosa CA, is is useless because of course people who want power love the immunity from public opinion and thrive on the Establishment /Arrogance of Power sort of "privilege". Actually, anyone trying to discuss" white privilege": has gotta be a stooge just ignoring "political privilege" that subjugates everyone.

The only way to improve our situation is to reduce government, reduce the power of government, make government accountable to the people. The US Constitution was the best we've ever done towards that aim, and the real answer to to do it better, and make actual human rights, limited government, and independent education the ideals we sup0port.

To Hell with Fascism and all kinds of top-down solutions worldwide.

Politics has gotta be kept local, and people have to watch their watchdogs.

 

[The Thriller]

Isn’t it nice to hear normal political drama instead of witnessing the president commit crimes by pressuring another world leader to dig up dirt on his political opponent? Or ignoring a pandemic because it might hurt his re-election? Or demanding that the armed forces crush the skulls of protesters? Or praising Hitler???

 

[FalseFlagg K]

Can someone who likes Harris give a reasoned explaination why ? From a distance she comes across as rather underwhelming

 

[Gameface]

Can someone who likes Harris give a reasoned explaination why ? From a distance she comes across as rather underwhelming

Because you're looking for a circus clown but turns out she's just a boring *** politician?

 

[FalseFlagg K]

Because you're looking for a circus clown but turns out she's just a boring *** politician?

nah someone who can discuss detail of policy rather than deflect and start that weird laugh

 

[Al-O-Meter]

Can someone who likes Harris give a reasoned explaination why ? From a distance she comes across as rather underwhelming

Harris wasn’t my choice but I can give you five things about her that I like.

• She can be tough on crime. Tulsi Gabbard effectively ended Kamala’s Presidential campaign by listing off how tough she was on crime which played horribly with the base at that defund-the-police moment in time. In the first 3 years of being DA, the San Francisco conviction rate went from 52% to 67%. She did that IN CALIFORNIA! IN SAN FRANCISCO!!! Have you seen videos of how bad San Francisco has become since she left?
  
  
• Kamala Harris is smart but isn’t overly hesitant to act as many smart people can be. There is no “paralysis by analysis”.
  
  
• If a better idea comes along, Kamala Harris will drop the old idea and pick up the new one. She isn’t tied to one way of doing things and adapts quickly. Enemies use that to paint her as hypocritical or wishy-washy but if you actually look at the position she held before, and the position she switched to after, the ‘after’ position is better. Her initial instincts aren’t always solid but her pivots usually are.
  
  
• Kamala is a very good political operator. She started from nothing and clawed her way all the way into being Senator for the most populous state in the Union before becoming Vice President. That doesn’t happen if you aren’t good at swimming with sharks.
  
  
• Her handling of the southern border. That job is the Kobayashi Maru and her boss made it 10 times worse before publically telling everyone that Kamala would solve it. Conservative Media plays a constant drum beat about Kamala not going to the border as if she’s a construction worker crazy good at building fences or expecting her to splash her face with blue paint as she rides a horse back and forth in front of border enforcement while galvanizing them to fight for freedom. No, she set about reducing the flow at the source and undoing the damage her boss did. Kudos for that.

Kamala Harris also has a number of drawbacks which I’m sure you know. She isn’t the total package but she is nowhere near as bad as the picture many draw.

 

[FalseFlagg K]

Harris wasn’t my choice but I can give you five things about her that I like.

• She can be tough on crime. Tulsi Gabbard effectively ended Kamala’s Presidential campaign by listing off how tough she was on crime which played horribly with the base at that defund-the-police moment in time. In the first 3 years of being DA, the San Francisco conviction rate went from 52% to 67%. She did that IN CALIFORNIA! IN SAN FRANCISCO!!! Have you seen videos of how bad San Francisco has become since she left?
  
  
• Kamala Harris is smart but isn’t overly hesitant to act as many smart people can be. There is no “paralysis by analysis”.
  
  
• If a better idea comes along, Kamala Harris will drop the old idea and pick up the new one. She isn’t tied to one way of doing things and adapts quickly. Enemies use that to paint her as hypocritical or wishy-washy but if you actually look at the position she held before, and the position she switched to after, the ‘after’ position is better. Her initial instincts aren’t always solid but her pivots usually are.
  
  
• Kamala is a very good political operator. She started from nothing and clawed her way all the way into being Senator for the most populous state in the Union before becoming Vice President. That doesn’t happen if you aren’t good at swimming with sharks.
  
  
• Her handling of the southern border. That job is the Kobayashi Maru and her boss made it 10 times worse before publically telling everyone that Kamala would solve it. Conservative Media plays a constant drum beat about Kamala not going to the border as if she’s a construction worker crazy good at building fences or expecting her to splash her face with blue paint as she rides a horse back and forth in front of border enforcement while galvanizing them to fight for freedom. No, she set about reducing the flow at the source and undoing the damage her boss did. Kudos for that.

Kamala Harris also has a number of drawbacks which I’m sure you know. She isn’t the total package but she is nowhere near as bad as the picture many draw.

cool thank you for the excellent reply i was hoping for

 

[JazzyFresh]

Lol Kamala is smart? She can't even answer simple basic questions about the border. She thinks rural people can't get IDs because there's no Kinkos. Not only is that absolutely insulting it's bigoted by definition.

Rumor has it via a whistleblower that these bully reports are being linked because she's too stupid to run the country and we all know your Dictator president, who has early onset dementia is going to be forced out soon.

 

[The Thriller]

Imagine thinking the border is one of the top issues right now. Lol just unreal.

covid
Voter suppression laws
Continued authoritarian attacks from the GOP and the former guy
Rabid right wing terrorist groups
Unresolved system racism economically and politically
Russian and Chinese aggression
Violence increasing nationwide
Dreamers still needing a solution
Climate change

“bUt ThE bOrDeR! tHe BrOwN cArAvAn!”

Seeing how american workers are aging, bring on more caravans! If we hope to remain competitive economically, we should be encouraging immigration.

 

[candrew]

The fact that they handed Harris the train wreck that is the immigration problem makes me think they don't want her to be a viable candidate for the D nomination in 2024.

No matter what she does the vast majority of the country is going to think she is either not strict enough or not compassionate enough.

 

[The Thriller]

The fact that they handed Harris the train wreck that is the immigration problem makes me think they don't want her to be a viable candidate for the D nomination in 2024.

No matter what she does the vast majority of the country is going to think she is either not strict enough or not compassionate enough.

If Americans had more than a single brain cell they’d recognize that our economy depends on immigration. Without immigration, good luck competing with Asia or the EU economically. Who’s going to nurse boomers now that they’re entering nursing home ages? Who’s going to grow and pick the crops in California? And all those cute handouts like social security and Medicare, good luck trying to pay for them without the hard work of immigrants.

Contrary to what MAGA believes, we’re not returning to a mythical past where one can happily work at a steel mill and afford single family housing because we deport the immigrants and build a damn wall.

 

[JazzyFresh]

Imagine thinking the border is one of the top issues right now. Lol just unreal.

covid
Voter suppression laws
Continued authoritarian attacks from the GOP and the former guy
Rabid right wing terrorist groups
Unresolved system racism economically and politically
Russian and Chinese aggression
Violence increasing nationwide
Dreamers still needing a solution
Climate change

“bUt ThE bOrDeR! tHe BrOwN cArAvAn!”

Seeing how american workers are aging, bring on more caravans! If we hope to remain competitive economically, we should be encouraging immigration.

You say covid yet the borders are completely open and these people are not being tested. Please tell me you are not this stupid....

White supremacists kill less than lightning per year. More kids have died at the border. Kids being starved, abused, commiting suicide, not allowed to shower, being served raw meat, and not not able to sleep as the lights are on 24 hours and they are shoulder to shoulder. DURING COVID....

BLM was responsible for billions I'm damage destroying hundreds of innocent businesses and damaging over ten thousand more.

Violence is up... Yet you want to defund police... Duh you moron. Why do you suppose violence is up?

 

[JazzyFresh]

If Americans had more than a single brain cell they’d recognize that our economy depends on immigration. Without immigration, good luck competing with Asia or the EU economically. Who’s going to nurse boomers now that they’re entering nursing home ages? Who’s going to grow and pick the crops in California? And all those cute handouts like social security and Medicare, good luck trying to pay for them without the hard work of immigrants.

Contrary to what MAGA believes, we’re not returning to a mythical past where one can happily work at a steel mill and afford single family housing because we deport the immigrants and build a damn wall.

Lol racist as hell. You think terribly low of immigrants if these are your only examples.

Who's going to nurse boomers? Nurses.

Who's going to pick crops? Only illegals? Racist pig.

That two things dude... Omg how will we live without two things?!?