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I've watched every game this year and I really like what I see. Great footwork, great rebounding, super strong, but not a high flyer. I think Kanter is on the verg of being really good. If you watch he almost always beats his guy. Sometimes he gets his shot blocked but its the guy coming from the weak side that gets the block. I think that is just learning how fast the NBA game is. You can't just beat one guy and think your done. In the NBA you have to be able to beat one guy quickly so they others don't have time to react. Once he learns this he will be amazing.
 
He just needs some more playing time so he can get comfortable. He has all he needs to be a great player, but the game has gone from no play to playing at the highest level. Just needs to play some more and the game will begin to slow down.
 
PKM said:
He just needs some more playing time so he can get comfortable. He has all he needs to be a great player, but the game has gone from no play to playing at the highest level. Just needs to play some more and the game will begin to slow down.
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Agreed. All of Kanters problems that I have seen so far, are things that are easily correctible with experience. He doesn't strike me as the sort of paler who wil get into mental funks, a la CJ Miles, and Gordon Hayward as of late.
 
dalamon said:
Agreed. All of Kanters problems that I have seen so far, are things that are easily correctible with experience. He doesn't strike me as the sort of paler who wil get into mental funks, a la CJ Miles, and Gordon Hayward as of late.
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He's mentally tough. I do think he's worrying too much about screwing up and letting his teammates down .. leading to over-thinking and being overly deliberate.
 
Kanter was mostly awful last night but I have mostly loved what I've seen so far. Really hoping his offense and explosion comes along but I have to remind myself to be patient.
 
Kanter can rebound at an elite level; however, his offense will always be a problem. He takes too long to gather himself before going backup on offensive rebounds and he may be the easier center to block a shot on in the league. I know he is young and will improve, but I've never seen a NBA player have such a problem at the rim.
 
sojodave said:
Kanter can rebound at an elite level; however, his offense will always be a problem. He takes too long to gather himself before going backup on offensive rebounds and he may be the easier center to block a shot on in the league. I know he is young and will improve, but I've never seen a NBA player have such a problem at the rim.
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Ever see Michal Ruffin play? That guy did not need to be blocked at the rim. He just missed regardless.
 
Once he learns about a little thing we Americans like to call, "a put back shot" (ie. Not bringing the ball all the way down to his knees before going back up with the shot) he'll be golden.
 
sojodave said:
Kanter can rebound at an elite level; however, his offense will always be a problem. He takes too long to gather himself before going backup on offensive rebounds and he may be the easier center to block a shot on in the league. I know he is young and will improve, but I've never seen a NBA player have such a problem at the rim.
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Nobody's seen an entrance to the league like Kanter's either. Kanter probably shouldn't even be able to contribute, but he usually is one of the best players on the team with consistency (no joke).

Maybe you're right, but making such absolute statements about a 19 year old with less experience than anyone in the league is ridiculous.
 
sojodave said:
Kanter can rebound at an elite level; however, his offense will always be a problem. He takes too long to gather himself before going backup on offensive rebounds and he may be the easier center to block a shot on in the league. I know he is young and will improve, but I've never seen a NBA player have such a problem at the rim.
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Always? Ok....He won't develope at all. If he doesn't get it at game 20 he never will..
 
sojodave said:
Kanter can rebound at an elite level; however, his offense will always be a problem. He takes too long to gather himself before going backup on offensive rebounds and he may be the easier center to block a shot on in the league. I know he is young and will improve, but I've never seen a NBA player have such a problem at the rim.
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ok,i will try to write some stuff with my broken english:o

enes was blocked twice,by A.Johnson.both times,enes easly eliminate the guy(cant remember who it was) who defend himself with the nice post move,but than was blocked by AJ.i think if his team mates gave him the space he needed by moving away from the paint further,it would make things much easier for Enes(and he should learn how to pass the ball as well).i dont think the that player who defended enes had any chance against his post move.enother thing is he doesnt get many passes,he got 0 passes at first half.i dont think his team mates respect him much.most of the time they play like he doesnt excists on the floor.right now,im thinking if it was the right decision to draft enes.we have bigal,milsap,favors,and i dont think enes is gonna get much more playing time than what he has now(and playing time is what enes needs for his development).For the good of utah jazz and enes,i think he should be traded for pg,sg whatever the utah needs.
 
sojodave said:
Kanter can rebound at an elite level; however, his offense will always be a problem. He takes too long to gather himself before going backup on offensive rebounds and he may be the easier center to block a shot on in the league. I know he is young and will improve, but I've never seen a NBA player have such a problem at the rim.
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Yeah, cause that's one of those unfixable things...
 
Kanter's rebounding rate (percentage of opponent's missed shots that a player rebounds) is already up there with some of the best in the NBA. Granted, based off 2nd units' missed shots. But it does seem pretty promising to me:

1 Dwight Howard, ORL 24.0
2 Marcus Camby, POR 22.8
3 Anderson Varejao, CLE 21.0
4 Andrew Bynum, LAL 20.8
5 DeMarcus Cousins, SAC 20.7
6 Kosta Koufos, DEN 20.2
Samuel Dalembert, HOU 20.2
Enes Kanter, UTAH 20.2
9 Reggie Evans, LAC 19.8
10 Kevin Love, MIN 19.3

He Kanter can keep up with his defending/rebounding/close range dunks, I think he can built on that and become a pretty good player.
 
xenophobe
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Oh for cryin' out loud, since when does mentioning that you are an American make you a Zenophobe ? Buck up laddy and be proud of who and what you are. Everyone else is, and rightly so.

For myself i am white and an American and a retired senior citizen. Damn that went down hill in a hurry!
 
Grandpa Jazz said:
Oh for cryin' out loud, since when does mentioning that you are an American make you a Zenophobe ? Buck up laddy and be proud of who and what you are. Everyone else is, and rightly so.

For myself i am white and an American and a retired senior citizen. Damn that went down hill in a hurry!
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Wow .. I'm sorry, sir.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
Kanter's rebounding rate (percentage of opponent's missed shots that a player rebounds) is already up there with some of the best in the NBA. Granted, based off 2nd units' missed shots. But it does seem pretty promising to me:

1 Dwight Howard, ORL 24.0
2 Marcus Camby, POR 22.8
3 Anderson Varejao, CLE 21.0
4 Andrew Bynum, LAL 20.8
5 DeMarcus Cousins, SAC 20.7
6 Kosta Koufos, DEN 20.2
Samuel Dalembert, HOU 20.2
Enes Kanter, UTAH 20.2
9 Reggie Evans, LAC 19.8
10 Kevin Love, MIN 19.3

He Kanter can keep up with his defending/rebounding/close range dunks, I think he can built on that and become a pretty good player.
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Any statistic where Kanter ties with Kostas Koufos must be sure-fire indicator of greatness.
 
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