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NotDeadYet

NotDeadYet

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After 4 games, the minutes on the floor by player are:

PG Williams (97), Watson (48), Gaines (38), Price (36)
SG Bell (70), Thompson (37), Jeffers (37)
SF Miles (81), Hayward (86), Evans (58), Nichols (39)
PF Millsap (82), Kirilenko (71)
C Jefferson (101), Fesenko (81)


I'm gonna throw out that I think the 12 players who have played the most minutes would make a real nice roster to start the season with. I don't think Sloan would play anyone more than minor minutes when he has very little chance to make the team.
I know Thompson is a longshot, but I think has done well; feeling his way without trying to take a shot with every touch. We know he has a good feel for offense in a system like the Jazz; the key is can he play defense at SG? If so, I think he has a real chance...

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Don't forget Price's contract is guaranteed.
IMO, Fes and Gaines have been the real surprises thus far. Fes is making a case for significant PT and it's going to be awfully tough to cut Sundiata. Jeffers, Evans, Gaines, Thompson and Nichols all have non-guaranteed contracts. I could see the Jazz keeping 15 on the roster until contracts have to become guaranteed.

So that means two cuts. Nichols doesn't have much of a shot. He's been in the league a couple of years and there's no way he plays ahead of Evans. That's an easy decision. Next one after that is tough, though. Probably comes down to how impressive Thompson is. If Sloan thinks he can become a good combo guard, then you keep him and cut Gaines or Jeffers.

Jazz can cut and still assign up to 3 players to the Flash. So expect them to exercise that option with Gaines, Jeffers and/or Thompson. The risk in doing that is the players are under a D-League contract, but their rights don't belong to the Jazz, so they could be signed by any other team during the season.
 
OK, Glass, I'm behind the times a bit with roster stuff. Is the roster limit now 13? For a long time it was 12.
I'm guessing we would not just up and cut Price, even though his guaranteed contract is very modest.
I believe Elson is also guaranteed, but he could start on the injured list a la Okur...
If Thompson develops and Gaines continues to play well, this'll be one of the toughest cutdowns Sloan has ever faced!
 
Gotta cut at least two. Right now it looks like Nichols and Jeffers.
Of course that leaves 4 PG's, so it is likely that either Yadda goes, or perhaps trade Price for a conditional second rounder that likely amounts to nothing in the end.

I think the Jazz would like to get down to 14, but could keep 15 until the contracts become guaranteed.

Gotta keep at least 13.
 
NotDeadYet said:
OK, Glass, I'm behind the times a bit with roster stuff. Is the roster limit now 13? For a long time it was 12.
I'm guessing we would not just up and cut Price, even though his guaranteed contract is very modest.
I believe Elson is also guaranteed, but he could start on the injured list a la Okur...
If Thompson develops and Gaines continues to play well, this'll be one of the toughest cutdowns Sloan has ever faced!
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There's no such thing as an injured list anymore.

Rosters can be a maximum of 15 but must be a minimum of 13. Twelve are active for each game. KOC has often stated he likes to go with 14 to maintain roster flexibility. But that shouldn't be a problem with just 12 fully-guaranteed contracts.

The D-League provision is new this season. In additiion to the two on the team roster who can be assigned to the affiliate (provided they are first or second year players), each team can also designate three of the players who were cut last be allocated to their D-League team. If these players sign the standard D-League contract, then they must play with that D-League team. However, IINM, there are no rights given to the NBA franchise, so those players can later be signed to an NBA contract by any team.

I'll bet Evans or Thompson would be signed immediately. Jeffers and Gaines would probably get some looks, but who knows if they'd be signed. I don't know if Nichols is eligible. He's "played" two years in the NBA, but only appeared in 18 games. Maybe he still has D-League eligibility left.

In any case, I like the new rule. Teams can keep an eye on players they like, while it also gives the players a chance to sign with a different team if there's an opportunity that comes up.
 
Thanks; Glass.
Interesting I can't find these changes on NBA.com; their roster limit info is dated 2001. Obviously not current. Thanks for the info; got a couple questions if you don't mind:
Q #1; " the two on the team roster who can be assigned to the affiliate (provided they are first or second year players) " are actually on the 15-man roster and CANNOT be signed by another team?
Q #2; The 3 inactive players can be veterans if a team chooses to do so? I.E., none of them are required to do a D-League stint?
Q #3; OK, no more injured list; does this mean an injured player like Okur will count against the 15 man roster?
Q #4; I think you're saying the new rule is a team can allocate 3 additional guys to the D-league, although no team actually owns their rights unless they are signed to someones roster?
 
NotDeadYet said:
Thanks; Glass.
Interesting I can't find these changes on NBA.com; their roster limit info is dated 2001. Obviously not current. Thanks for the info; got a couple questions if you don't mind:
Q #1; " the two on the team roster who can be assigned to the affiliate (provided they are first or second year players) " are actually on the 15-man roster and CANNOT be signed by another team?
Q #2; The 3 inactive players can be veterans if a team chooses to do so? I.E., none of them are required to do a D-League stint?
Q #3; OK, no more injured list; does this mean an injured player like Okur will count against the 15 man roster?
Q #4; I think you're saying the new rule is a team can allocate 3 additional guys to the D-league, although no team actually owns their rights unless they are signed to someones roster?
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I'm pretty sure this is right.

#1 Yes they count against the 15 and can not be signed by anybody else.
#2 Yes anybody on the roster can be inactive.
#3 Yes he counts against the roster.
#4 Yes they can allocate 3 additional players to their D-league affiliate (in the Jazz's case the flash). But no NBA team would own their rights unless they signed them to their 15 man roster.

The 1st 3 Q's I'm very sure of but the 4th one is new and I'm not so sure about that one.
 
Thanks, Greg.
Yeah, this is in line with the NBA's effort (and the NFL too) to get teams to use more younger inexperienced guys on their roster.
 
I looked at the box score and dead men walking Nichols, Gaines, Jeffers, Thompson had some Sloan moments that actually helped the team.
 
....we are dominating the boards and shooting well....what concerns me is low assist totals and still way too many turnovers. Both can be corrected.
 
carolinajazz said:
....we are dominating the boards and shooting well....what concerns me is low assist totals and still way too many turnovers. Both can be corrected.
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Dominating the boards? ESPN has rebounds at 33 Phoenix, 26 Jazz.
Channing Frye appears to be schooling Paul Millsap.

Team assists are about even but Nash really had his way against the Jazz with 10 in just 20 mins.

Don;t want to jinx it, but the Jazz are 18-20 from the line and Phoenix is shooting a Jazz-like 54% from the charoty stripe.



Let's just make it to the 4th quarter with the lead and hand it over to Fesenko.
 
Early on they got us pretty good on the boards, but we closed the gap as the game went on.
Any questions regarding Evans making the roster should've been answered last night. They are not only using him at SF, he is logging minutes at PF too. He really reminds me of a young, even skinnier, Kirilenko. He played some key minutes at PF in the 4th quarter and did very well.
 
I've got to say the biggest surprise thus far has been Gaines. Even the comments from Sloan seem surprisingly positive. That said, I don't see the Jazz keeping 4 PGs, nor do I see Price getting the heave-ho over Gaines. I think Nichols is a sure cut, but Jeffers has also played well. I imagine he might be Flashed. I suppose they might even keep Jeffers while Okur recovers, but I doubt the Jazz go with 15 total. Here's my list for starting the season. Am I forgetting anyone?

PG: Williams/Watson/Price
SG: Miles/Bell/Thompson or Jeffers
SF: AK/Woody
PF: Sap/Evans
C: AJ/Fes/Elson/Memo

Four centers (eventually) is a smart luxury. I think Thompson might get the call if he shows something soon, but I also think he could be one of those classic Jerrycuts that happens before the end of preseason. Check it in a couple of weeks and if I'm right I'm calling the Inquierer and open for business.
 
Good, 'Doc'.
I'd say Kirilenko is gonna be our #1 b/u PF, then Evans.
If we only keep 14, Jeffers could probably be cut and put back in the D-league and no one else would sign him. He'd still be ours if we needed him back. He'd have familiar company with Gaines :cool:.
I'm not so sure about that on Thompson; he might get signed elsewhere if we cut him. Big brother Jason plays for the Kings, and Ryan was in their summer league. They did make him an offer too...
 
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