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Most Likely Amnesty Clauses: Mehmet Okur

The article talks about how some GMs don't feel it's fair that they'd have to use the amnesty clause on a player who's currently under contract because some teams don't necessarily have a bad contract on their books. While Memo's on the books for a lot more than he deserves, I don't think its a bad contract as it only has one year left. As a Jazz fan I would hope that the only contingent on it is that it needs to be used within the next ten years (life of the CBA), which would basically give us a free pass on someone in the future. While the Jazz would have almost unlimited flexibilty with Memo off the books, having an amnesty clause in their back pocket would probably be more valuable.
 
If they use it, I hope it's for Bell. Memo for one year $10+M is much better than multiple years of Raja at $3+M per.
 
Cutting Memo would not make much sense. We'd still have to pay him and who would we sign with the cap space on short notice? It's better to either let him expire or trade him at the deadline to some team desperate to shed salary.
 
YB85 said:
If they use it, I hope it's for Bell. Memo for one year $10+M is much better than multiple years of Raja at $3+M per.
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One game w/ Memo @ 10M is better than two years of Raja @ 50 cents a game.
We need Memo, at least there's a chance he can still shoot.
No chance Raja can shoot.
 
JimLes said:
Cutting Memo would not make much sense. We'd still have to pay him and who would we sign with the cap space on short notice? It's better to either let him expire or trade him at the deadline to some team desperate to shed salary.
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I think the idea would be to get under the cap to avoid luxury payments rather than use his space to sign someone else. Hopefully Kanter can take most of his bench minutes.
 
How does amnesty work exactly? I've seen people saying that even if we use the clause on Okur, we'd still be on the hook for his salary. So how the heck does it work?
 
"The New York Times and Sports Illustrated.com subsequently reported Saturday that the owners and players have reached tentative agreement on an amnesty provision that will allow teams to release one player -- with pay -- at any point during the life of the next collective bargaining agreement."

So what the hell is the upside for the team here?
 
SalmonHobo said:
How does amnesty work exactly? I've seen people saying that even if we use the clause on Okur, we'd still be on the hook for his salary. So how the heck does it work?
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How it works: Take Okur for example. He's on the books for ~$12MM. If the Jazz decide to amnesty his a$$ then we'd essentially let him go (cut him). While the Jazz would still have to pay him his $12MM, his salary would not go towards the salary cap. I would think the players would be all over this.
 
SalmonHobo said:
"The New York Times and Sports Illustrated.com subsequently reported Saturday that the owners and players have reached tentative agreement on an amnesty provision that will allow teams to release one player -- with pay -- at any point during the life of the next collective bargaining agreement."

So what the hell is the upside for the team here?
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Um...if a team has a ridiculous salary on their books that basically prohibits them from doing anything to improve their team (Orlando/Washington immediately jump to mind) this provides them an escape from previous mistakes. It's not a money saver at all, in fact it's the exact opposite, but it would allow several teams to improve their teams ability to compete.
 
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margodydek said:
Um...if a team has a ridiculous salary on their books that basically prohibits them from doing anything to improve their team (Orlando/Washington immediately jump to mind) this provides them an escape from previous mistakes. It's not a money saver at all, in fact it's the exact opposite, but it would allow several teams to improve their teams ability to compete.
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How is avoiding luxury tax not saving money at all?
 
Looks like Memo is playing pretty well in Turkey so he may indeed have some trade value this year. That is why it would make a lot of sense to get rid of Bell and save some money under the salary cap next year as well.
 
Could we possibly trade for a player to amnesty? A lot of teams have TWO bad contracts, meaning they can only amnesty one. Then they ship the other one, along with other valuable assets to us. Then we use our amnesty on the bad contract and get the good stuff.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Could we possibly trade for a player to amnesty? A lot of teams have TWO bad contracts, meaning they can only amnesty one. Then they ship the other one, along with other valuable assets to us. Then we use our amnesty on the bad contract and get the good stuff.
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Never thought of it, but this seriously makes sense. Curious about this as well, now.
 
AlaskanAssassin said:
I think the idea would be to get under the cap to avoid luxury payments rather than use his space to sign someone else. Hopefully Kanter can take most of his bench minutes.
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I don't know how this slipped my mind. Especially seeing as the luxury cap rules promise to be much, much tougher in the next CBA.
 
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