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New Draft Express Mock - Exum to #6

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1. Embiid
2. Parker
3. Wiggins
4. Smart
5. Vonleh
6. Exum
7. Randle
8. McDermott
9. Stauskas
10. Gordon
23. Anderson
35. Bogdanovic
 
this is last year's


draftexpress mock 2013
1. noel
2. oladipo
3. porter
4. len
5. mclemore
6. trey
7. mccollum
8. bennett
9. caldwell pope
10. zeller


actual results
1. bennett
2. dipo
3. porter
4. zeller
5. len
6. noel
7. mclemore
8. caldwell pope
9. trey
10. mccolum
 
These mock's would be better if they explained the up/down movement and backed up their opinions with something tangible. It's like a soap-opera. There are so many smokescreens that it's tough to come to any conclusions. Does Smart continue to wow Orlando, or did Exum's camp say or do something to push him into a bigger market? Are they simply guessing (of course) and trying to get more page views.
 
To confirm, we haven't had Exum in, only seen him at a joint workout? If even that?
 
Can't think of anything that might have surfaced recently that explains Jabari to 2, and Wiggins to 3. What a heist for Philly that would be.
 
Exum gon' fall to the Lakers, and he'll become the next Kobe.
 
Fakers Luck said:
These mock's would be better if they explained the up/down movement
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x 1,000,000

If your company is based on predictions and you claim to be the best as DX does, why not be as transparent as possible?

there's lesser draft sites, in other sports too, that at-least put out a few paragraphs explaining the movement with an updated Mock. Some like Walterfootball.com leave the prior mocks pick below each of the updated picks, with an explanation of the move. When recruiting services update their lists they also put out bulleted lists explaining the big moves, dunno whats up with DX in that regard. The scouting reports are top-notch though.
 
Bodhi said:
To confirm, we haven't had Exum in, only seen him at a joint workout? If even that?
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It's been noted many times that the Jazz have a very good idea of what they'd be getting from Exum. The guy that invites the international players to play int he Hoops Summit works for the Jazz.
 
orangello said:
It's been noted many times that the Jazz have a very good idea of what they'd be getting from Exum. The guy that invites the international players to play int he Hoops Summit works for the Jazz.
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I'd have to argue that that shouldn't be sufficient at all. I'd want to see him as close to the draft as possible, considering how young he is and the fact that I'd want DL, Perrin and even now Snyder to get a first hand look at him. These aren't things you leave to "oh, well so and so saw him in x months ago".

By contrast, Orlando knew a **** ton about Smart last year but have worked him out twice this year.
 
Bodhi said:
I'd have to argue that that shouldn't be sufficient at all. I'd want to see him as close to the draft as possible, considering how young he is and the fact that I'd want DL, Perrin and even now Snyder to get a first hand look at him. These aren't things you leave to "oh, well so and so saw him in x months ago".

By contrast, Orlando knew a **** ton about Smart last year but have worked him out twice this year.
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Agreed with all of that but I will point out that Burke never came I for a workout with the Jazz last year.

The Jazz Scouting department has been watching this kid for at LEAST two years.

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dalamon said:
Can't think of anything that might have surfaced recently that explains Jabari to 2, and Wiggins to 3. What a heist for Philly that would be.
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Sixers/Clippers season ticket holder here.

The Bucks owners have publicly said during fan season ticket holder events that they have Jabari/Embiid as their top 2 prospects. Several reports indicate that their GM has a boner for Exum too, so apparently Wiggins is #4 on their board.

Smart had two workouts with the Magic (only prospect to have that) and was their coveted player last year.

Hopefully that helps inform you guys!

Sidenote: As a Sixers fan, if Wiggins is gone at #3, I'd be receptive to a 3 for 5 swap provided that you include Kanter, Burks, and a future first and provided Exum falls to 5.

 
I am trying to decide if the Jazz not bringing Exum in means they have already decided against him or not? Maybe they have had extensive talks with him in Australia? Who knows. Maybe they just don't like him at all for some reason, or maybe they desperately want him and think he is going to be Kobe?
 
b_line said:
I am trying to decide if the Jazz not bringing Exum in means they have already decided against him or not? Maybe they have had extensive talks with him in Australia? Who knows. Maybe they just don't like him at all for some reason, or maybe they desperately want him and think he is going to be Kobe?
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Is it official they're not bringing in Exum?
 
If I was a gm with more knowledge of Exum then any other team, and if I was sold on Exum, why bring him in? All that does is tip everyone off that he really is a great prospect.


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b_line said:
I am trying to decide if the Jazz not bringing Exum in means they have already decided against him or not? Maybe they have had extensive talks with him in Australia? Who knows. Maybe they just don't like him at all for some reason, or maybe they desperately want him and think he is going to be Kobe?
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Maybe they tried to bring him in he said no. He's been in the discussion as a top-4 pick pretty much the entire time. Perhaps his agent feels it would be a bad sign to have him workout for teams beyond the #4 pick; maybe would give the impression they were worried about him falling.
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
x 1,000,000

If your company is based on predictions and you claim to be the best as DX does, why not be as transparent as possible?

there's lesser draft sites, in other sports too, that at-least put out a few paragraphs explaining the movement with an updated Mock. Some like Walterfootball.com leave the prior mocks pick below each of the updated picks, with an explanation of the move. When recruiting services update their lists they also put out bulleted lists explaining the big moves, dunno whats up with DX in that regard. The scouting reports are top-notch though.
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They do on some of their extended mock drafts. We'll get at least one detailed one before the draft.
 
orangello said:
Agreed with all of that but I will point out that Burke never came I for a workout with the Jazz last year.

The Jazz Scouting department has been watching this kid for at LEAST two years.

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Burke didn't come in because he was not projected to fall to where the jazz had their pick. Burke was at #6 in a few final mock drafts. I wouldn't have expected him to work out for a team that had the #14 pick. Exum is a different story, though. A team in the 5-7 range could decide to trade up a few spots. That way, if Orlando doesn't pick him, he has others interested. Then again, if his agent thinks there's a chance he won't have great workouts, he limits them. If Exum slips past Orlando, teams that didn't get a chance to see him privately may snap him up as a "steal."
 
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