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In breaking news, the Earth is round as that helps the whole rotation thing.
 
"Ty will have ideas that he’s looked at since the end of the [season] and how it will fit our players," said Hornacek, who intends to re-sign with Utah once the lockout ends. "Sometimes certain offenses work better with certain guys, and he’ll have some ideas on what we need and how we want to do it with this particular group of guys that we have."

Not a surprise, but nice to hear.
 
It would be odd if he didn't change it. No one can teach Sloan's system better than Sloan, so it only makes sense to develop his own system. I guess this tweet may be suggesting radical/major changes?
 
I will be very interested to see what Ty does whenever we play again. He was steeped in the Sloan approach as were his assistants so staying the same would not be a surprise. I am a fan of a disciplined offense and set plays so I hope we don't go Phoenix or GS though I doubt we would do so. Good find JB.
 
Maybe more of a San Antonio system would work? They never had an elite PG who could shoot.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Maybe more of a San Antonio system would work? They never had an elite PG who could shoot.
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San Antonio is all drive and kick. We don't have the shooters for that (though I wouldn't mind seeing the corner 3 become part of our offense anyway.) But we've got 3 guys who can drive and pass off the dribble assuming Burks is ready. Strange as it sounds, a lot of teams don't have that. We just need to be less PG dominant and play more mismatches out on the floor. Like, if Tony Allen is guarding CJ, you run more PnR through Hayward to pick on Mayo or Young. That kind of thing. Carlisle gave the whole basketball world a lesson last season in tweaking your system night after night to beat the opponent in front of you. They posted Marion against the Blazers, killed the Lakers with PnR, and so on.
 
I just really hope winning is part of the new system.
Another good addition to a new system would be the Making Guards Sloan used to talk about.
 
What I'd like to see:

PG - Harris
SG - Hayward
SF - Battier (ok, I'm reaching a bit, AK or Miles more likely)
PF - Favors
C - Jefferson

I'd like to see Harris bring the ball up the floor and dump it off to Hayward. Then have Harris run off a couple screens to get the ball back in a position around the elbow where he is a triple threat to shoot, pass or penetrate. I think Harris' greatest strength is speed without the ball, and I think he'd be terrific in a system that forces him to move without the ball extensively. I'm thinking something like they used to do with Reggie Miller or a bit like we did with Harpring, only Harris wouldn't be single mindedly looking to shoot once he caught the ball like Harp was.

Jefferson can get some easy looks when his man has to help the opposing guard defend Harris. When Harris is on the bench we can run a lot of low post ISOs for Jefferson instead.
 
billyshelby said:
San Antonio is all drive and kick. We don't have the shooters for that (though I wouldn't mind seeing the corner 3 become part of our offense anyway.) But we've got 3 guys who can drive and pass off the dribble assuming Burks is ready. Strange as it sounds, a lot of teams don't have that. We just need to be less PG dominant and play more mismatches out on the floor. Like, if Tony Allen is guarding CJ, you run more PnR through Hayward to pick on Mayo or Young. That kind of thing. Carlisle gave the whole basketball world a lesson last season in tweaking your system night after night to beat the opponent in front of you. They posted Marion against the Blazers, killed the Lakers with PnR, and so on.
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It astounds me how rare that is.
 
What we need is an assistant coach that preaches defense. Defense (and rebounding) is not just efforts like Sloan suggested. I respect him a lot, but he's wrong on that.
 
billyshelby said:
San Antonio is all drive and kick. We don't have the shooters for that (though I wouldn't mind seeing the corner 3 become part of our offense anyway.) But we've got 3 guys who can drive and pass off the dribble assuming Burks is ready. Strange as it sounds, a lot of teams don't have that. We just need to be less PG dominant and play more mismatches out on the floor. Like, if Tony Allen is guarding CJ, you run more PnR through Hayward to pick on Mayo or Young. That kind of thing. Carlisle gave the whole basketball world a lesson last season in tweaking your system night after night to beat the opponent in front of you. They posted Marion against the Blazers, killed the Lakers with PnR, and so on.
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Do we really not have the shooters for that? We don't have Bowen, Barry or Carrottop but Hayward, Miles and Bell...ah ****...nevermind.
 
SalmonHobo said:
Do we really not have the shooters for that? We don't have Bowen, Barry or Carrottop but Hayward, Miles and Bell...ah ****...nevermind.
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We don't have the shooters to run San Antonio's offense. San Antonio builds their team around specialty wings who can shoot. Ginobili is their only wing who can drive and they set all kinds of high screens for him. Not classic PnR's because with him, the idea is just to give him a path and let him shoot his guns and fly his ships.

But San Antonio is an interesting comparison for a different reason. They have one wing who can drive. Most teams in the league have maybe 2 guys who can drive, but they can't necessarily pass. They're just drivers. We have 3 guys on the roster who can drive AND pass. That's pretty rare. Even more rare is having two of those guys on the court at the same time. So you can play mismatches a lot better. Even better is the fact we will often have some trio of Harris, Hayward, CJ, and Burks on the floor. That's 3 guys who have drive and pass skills. If you're creative, and I hope Ty is, you can do some interesting things with guys that have those skillsets.

Unfortunately, none of our guys who can do that are in the Ginobili class, they're all young, and there will be ugliness. But if you find the right system of off the ball movement, multiple guys who can drive and dish can wreak havoc because you're always picking on the weak links defensively.
 
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