JGolds
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where do you think the standings will be?
where do you think the standings will be?
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That's a quite a difference in team defensive rating between when Millsap and Favors are on the floor versus Millsap and Jefferson. Anyway, in respons to the original question:
1. Thunder
2. Jazz
3. Nuggets
4. Timberwolves
5. Blazers
That said, I think we could really see any combination with the Jazz, Nuggets and Timberwolves in the 2-4 positions. They should all be pretty close together.
1. Thunder
2. Jazz
3. Nuggets
4. Timberwolves
5. Blazers
That said, I think we could really see any combination with the Jazz, Nuggets and Timberwolves in the 2-4 positions. They should all be pretty close together.
JGolds
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yeah i was really surprised by the huge difference in defense eff. but i guess watchign the games it is easly noticed. jeffereson puts basically zero energy into defense. i think thats why milsap goes into the 4th with 4 to five fouls. he has been rolling over to jeffersons side and picking up the slack. ive always been amazed how al can go 48 mins with only 1 or 2 fouls..
I wouldn't say Jefferson puts zero energy into defense. I actually see him as a decent man-to-man defensive center. He's not great at the whole team defense thing though. Favors is an overall better defender because he can guard his man and protect the basket when other players get in the paint.
Al is simply to slow to ever be a good team defender.
NAOS
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"Utah's defense will improve if Derrick Favors takes more minutes from Al Jefferson. The Jazz allowed just 94.7 points per 100 possessions in 466 minutes with Favors and Paul Millsap on the floor together last season, vs. 104.9 in 1,818 minutes with Jefferson and Millsap on the floor."
Plus the additions of defensive players like Foye and Marvin Williams. D will be better but Big Al will still be on the floor so it wont be great.
MVP
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More like objective, not biased? I could see Jazz finishing better then Minny, especialy if injuries hit them hard again. But if Rubio is back in December as predicted and they stay relatively healthy - they will finish higher then Jazz.
More like your personal opinion. Nothing wrong with that. Just as mine is that the Jazz will finish higher than the Wolves because the Jazz are the better team.
MVP
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Lets see:
starters: Love, Pekovic, AK, Roy, Rubio vs M.Williams, Burks, Hayward, Millsap, big AL
I think it is fair to say that advantage Wolves.
coaching: not even close, advantage Wolves
Bench: Budinger, Shved, Stiemsma, D.Williams, D.Cunnigham, Ridnour, Barea, Lee vs M.Williams, Foye, Evans, Tinsley, Watson, Kanter, Favors, Murphy? I would call it even, maybe slight advantage Jazz.
So at the end to me it looks like like Wolves have better team. It is not clear cut but Love alone is enough( superstar, which Jazz lack ) to give edge to Wolves.
JGolds
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love is good ill give you that... roy is unproven to see if he can even ball anymore.. and i seriously doubt he will play at the same lvl he once did. ak will probably put up similer numbers to what he did in UT, good but far from impressive... if twolves havent dug themselves a whole by the time rubio returns they might have a chance.
Utah on the other hand... they have imprived from last year, atleast on paper. pluse the youngs are getting better. it will be interesting but i stongly disagree with you. but i guess we will see. it will be fun seeing how utah plays this year.
Stifle Tower
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1. OKC
2-4. Flip a coin.
5. Portland
You can make a case for Utah, Denver or Minnesota as the 2nd best team.
Minnesota may have finished in 2nd last season had Rubio not gotten hurt. They got rid of their headcase, Beasley, and for better or worse, picked up AK. But which AK will they get? Does Roy have anything left? And don't forget the all-important upgrade of Stiensma over Milicic.
Denver has Chandler for the entire season. They got Iguodala for peanuts. Was Washington the problem for McGee or will this be the breakout season for "Boom Bitches?"
2-4. Flip a coin.
5. Portland
You can make a case for Utah, Denver or Minnesota as the 2nd best team.
Minnesota may have finished in 2nd last season had Rubio not gotten hurt. They got rid of their headcase, Beasley, and for better or worse, picked up AK. But which AK will they get? Does Roy have anything left? And don't forget the all-important upgrade of Stiensma over Milicic.
Denver has Chandler for the entire season. They got Iguodala for peanuts. Was Washington the problem for McGee or will this be the breakout season for "Boom Bitches?"
Brown Notes
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I'm with this. Honestly with Rubio out I put us above the TWs but Denver is a seriously difficult team to deal with as far as what I'm looking at. Iggy is better right now than anyone we have and they have plenty of potential talent. Karl is a very very good coach and will get a lot more out of McGee than ever was displayed at Washington.
Utah is a total question mark. Nobody really knows how good the coaching is, how the adjusted roster will fit, what kind of progress to expect from the young core. I have my own prejudices of course but the reality is this season will define the direction of the team.
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Honestly, anything can happen after OKC secures 1st. There have been so many roster changes in most of these teams to the extent where it is HAD to pin down how each team will do. Ill try and make a prediction a few weeks into the season.
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