Practical Solution for the PG Situation

[rd81kwc]

If Harris doesn't get it figured out very soon, and if KOC doesn't pull off a major coup, we're pretty limited with our options. No PGs in the upcoming draft, and trade prospects aren't very good unless we give up someone we probably don't want to. So here's my idea:

1. Give Harris away. i.e. trade exception or something.
2. Promote Earl, who runs the team better anyway, to starting PG.
3. Move Burks, who doesn't get enough time, to backup PG, with intentions of grooming him to be the PG of the future.

Burks is quick, has good ball skills, can get to the rim, and he can guard as well. Hayward is our future at the 2 anyway. We'll have an easier time finding a 3 than a legit 1 down the road.

May not pan out, but we don't have many options, and the potential is there. Apologies if this has been proposed by someone else already.

 

[Dwill4mvp]

We watched Burks play pg before... It's not pretty

 

[Qman]

Harris has playing a little better lately. We need to give our young bigs a chance to play more when Jefferson and Millsap much smaller than the competition.

 

[ruca]

 

[enchilada_style]

If Harris doesn't get it figured out very soon, and if KOC doesn't pull off a major coup, we're pretty limited with our options. No PGs in the upcoming draft, and trade prospects aren't very good unless we give up someone we probably don't want to. So here's my idea:

1. Give Harris away. i.e. trade exception or something.
2. Promote Earl, who runs the team better anyway, to starting PG.
3. Move Burks, who doesn't get enough time, to backup PG, with intentions of grooming him to be the PG of the future.

Burks is quick, has good ball skills, can get to the rim, and he can guard as well. Hayward is our future at the 2 anyway. We'll have an easier time finding a 3 than a legit 1 down the road.

May not pan out, but we don't have many options, and the potential is there. Apologies if this has been proposed by someone else already.

Not a horrible idea in comparison to what has been thrown around lately. I think Burks has better chance to succeed as a sg. He does have some pg skills but for the long term I think it's best to continue to develop him as a sg.

 

[cowhide]

We watched Burks play pg before... It's not pretty

Yea because one game is enough time to actually make an educated decision about whether he can or cannot play the PG. Throw in his age and I am sure he can't get better.

 

[Dwill4mvp]

He is much better suited for the 2. Not the 1. Why develop him into something he is not? He is not naturally a PG.

 

[Dwill4mvp]

By the time we have him developed into a good PG in this league, we will have had the opportunity to already have someone that contribute much more to the PG position. Why not just draft Marshall, or get Teague or Lilliard and develop them into the PG of the future. I would rather develop someone that is a PG.

 

[Jazz4ever]

By the time we have him developed into a good PG in this league, we will have had the opportunity to already have someone that contribute much more to the PG position. Why not just draft Marshall, or get Teague or Lilliard and develop them into the PG of the future. I would rather develop someone that is a PG.

Because none of them are worthy of a lottery pick.

 

[Dwill4mvp]

Take Machodo then with a 2nd round pick. Someone that can run the offense and pass. I understand we need a PG, but Burks is going to be a much better 2 then 1. He is a natural scorer. I'm cool with playing a little more time at the PG this year just to get him more time. But, not for the future.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Because none of them are worthy of a lottery pick.

Repped

 

[vslice02]

Because none of them are worthy of a lottery pick.

At this stage it looks that way but you never know when someone will emerge. At this time in 2005, Deron Williams was a mid-1st-round pick at the highest. He quietly was the quarterback of an undefeated Illinois team but all the attention and highlights were going to Dee Brown and Luther Head. Williams was viewed as a solid player but no one was projecting him as an elite franchise PG. The two things that vaulted DWill into the top-5 were his performance against Arizona in the regional final (not only offensively but defensively as he completely shutdown the highly-touted Salim Stoudamire) and then the pre-draft camp where he really suprised scouts with his athleticism.

Perhaps some scouts were high on DWill for all of the 2004-05 season - but he was a late-riser on all the espn and nba draft websites.

I'm not in love with any of the PG's mentioned as potential 1st-round picks but it's still too early to completely eliminate the possiblity of drafting one in the 1st-round.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

If the Jazz have a pick in the 12-14 range, it's not really a reach to draft a guard if one of the prospects shows well. Picking 14th, for example, you're just looking for a rotation player, unless someone slips.

Kendall Marshall could develop his shooting when he gets in the league.

 

[Weezur]

Harris had an amazing game versus OKC and some of the passes he made were the best I've seen from him.

That being said, he was horrid on the Grizzlies game passing-wise.
He had this one play where Big Al was wide open and jumping and waving for the ball, but Harris never passed to him.

Oh, and no Burks on PG. He needs serious practice time at it....

 

[akirac73]

Why do people think that Burks can be a point guard? I'm sorry I just don't see it. Maybe he would be athletic enough to guard other point guards but for running an offense, you gotta be kidding me. Hayward has far better passing skills and court vision but nobody talks about converting him to point guard?

 

[Dwill4mvp]

Why do people think that Burks can be a point guard? I'm sorry I just don't see it. Maybe he would be athletic enough to guard other point guards but for running an offense, you gotta be kidding me. Hayward has far better passing skills and court vision but nobody talks about converting him to point guard?

Exactly this!

But, also don't we want to keep our players in Utah? If Burks plays a role he hates for the next four years while I'm sure he would rather be scoring from the two, not setting up the offense and playing PG. I mean that looked frustrating for him last time he tried, he probably hated it. I say we keep him at the 2, that is what he is best at and most comfortable with.

I think if Burks is an option for PG, we would be better off dealing him too the Celtics for Rondo. I would hate to trade him and this is the only situation i would. I see a guy that can fill it up in a hurry and gets to the line very well, and a decent playmaker.

 

[candrew]

Any practical solution that involves starting Earl Watson at PG is not a practical solution.

Watson is not a starting NBA PG. Never was.

 

[Grandpa Jazz]

Picking 14th, for example, you're just looking for a rotation player, unless someone slips.

Why do so many persist with this urban legend? The success rate in the NBA for players drafted say 10-15 is not much different than 1-5. Seems silly to Me to pigeonhole someone drafted 14th as a "role player' And expect
everybody 1-5 to be a superstar. IMHO.

 

[Brown Notes]

Standing pat till the season ends might be the most feasible option.

https://www.hoopsworld.com/2012-nba-free-agents

Point Guard
(name, team – 2011-12 salary – status)

Deron Williams, New Jersey Nets – $16.4 million – Player Option ($17.8 million)
Steve Nash, Phoenix Suns – $11.7 million – Unrestricted
Aaron Brooks, Phoenix Suns – $2.0 million – Restricted ($3.0 million Qualifying Offer)
Raymond Felton, Portland Trail Blazers – $7.6 million – Unrestricted
Kirk Hinrich, Atlanta Hawks – $8.0 million – Unrestricted
Jason Kidd, Dallas Mavericks – $8.6 million – Unrestricted
Andre Miller, Denver Nuggets – $7.8 million – Unrestricted
Chauncey Billups, L.A. Clippers – $2.0 million – Unrestricted
Jameer Nelson, Orlando Magic – $7.8 million – Player Option ($7.8 million)
D.J. Augustin, Charlotte Bobcats – $3.2 million – Restricted ($4.4 million Qualifying Offer)
Jason Terry, Dallas Mavericks – $10.7 million – Unrestricted
George Hill, Indiana Pacers – $2.1 million – Restricted ($3.1 million Qualifying Offer)
Jordan Farmar, New Jersey Nets – $4.0 million – Player Option ($4.3 million)
Leandro Barbosa, Toronto Raptors – $7.6 million – Unrestricted
Beno Udrih, Milwaukee Bucks – $7.0 million – Player Option ($7.4 million)
Goran Dragic, Houston Rockets – $2.1 million – Unrestricted*
Jerryd Bayless, Toronto Raptors – $3.0 million – Restricted ($4.2 million Qualifying Offer)
Derek Fisher, L.A. Lakers – $3.4 million – Player Option ($3.4 million)
Randy Foye, L.A. Clippers – $4.3 million – Unrestricted
Mo Williams, L.A. Clippers – $8.5 million – Player Option ($8.5 million)
Jonny Flynn, Houston Rockets – $3.4 million – Unrestricted
Keyon Dooling, Boston Celtics – $2.2 million – Unrestricted
Ishmael Smith, Orlando Magic – $0.5 million – Unrestricted*
Ramon Sessions, Cleveland Cavaliers – $4.3 million – Player Option ($4.6 million)
Jeremy Lin, New York Knicks – $0.8 million – Unrestricted*
Armon Johnson, Portland Trail Blazers – $0.8 million – Unrestricted*
Sundiata Gaines, New Jersey Nets – $0.9 million – Unrestricted*
A.J. Price, Indiana Pacers – $0.9 million – Unrestricted*
Baron Davis, New York Knicks – $1.3 million – Unrestricted
Royal Ivey, Oklahoma City Thunder – $1.2 million – Unrestricted
John Lucas, Chicago Bulls – $0.9 million – Unrestricted
Jannero Pargo, Atlanta Hawks – $1.1 million – Unrestricted
Delonte West, Dallas Mavericks – $1.1 million – Unrestricted
Walker Russell, Jr., Detroit Pistons – $0.4 million – Unrestricted*
Darius Morris, L.A. Lakers – $0.5 million – Unrestricted*
Terrell Harris, Miami HEAT – $0.5 million – Unrestricted*
Carldell Johnson, New Orleans Hornets – $0.5 million – Unrestricted*
DeAndre Liggins, Orlando Magic – $0.5 million – Unrestricted*
Ronnie Price, Phoenix Suns – $1.1 million – Unrestricted
T.J. Ford, San Antonio Spurs – $1.1 million – Unrestricted
Anthony Carter, Toronto Raptors – $1.3 million – Unrestricted
Roger Mason, Washington Wizards – $1.1 million – Unrestricted
Jamaal Tinsley, Utah Jazz – $1.2 million – Team Option ($1.3 million)

 

[NotDeadYet]

The one PG I've seen mentioned that tempts me is Rajon Rondo on the Celtics. There's no doubt they'd want Favors as part of any deal for him, so doubt we'll land him... unless the Celts can get Dwight Howard as part of a 3-team deal between Utah, Orlando, & Boston.