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Brown Notes

Brown Notes

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My Brownies just picked up Josh Gordon. I know he never played last year but was hoping some of you guys maybe had some insight on his approach to practice and overall impressions. Apparently Heckert did all kinds of research and couldn't find anybody that would say anything bad about him. There were scouts predicting Gordon to be top 15 overall next year if he stayed in school. There is next to nothing as far as video on him, I suppose he reminds me of Demaryius Thomas.

I know if he went to Idaho and took a year's free ride along with practice and facilities usage and then promptly bailed for the supplemental draft, I'd be disappointed (in the most mild terms). The scoop is supposedly his family is in trouble financially so I guess that's the other side of the coin. Anyways that's not what I'm asking about.

Is this guy the beast as advertised? Did he go to class and take school seriously? Is he still smoking weed? What kind of guy did my team draft?

TIA. Sucks for the Utes he didn't stay if he's the guy they are selling us.
 
Brown Notes said:
My Brownies just picked up Josh Gordon. I know he never played last year but was hoping some of you guys maybe had some insight on his approach to practice and overall impressions. Apparently Heckert did all kinds of research and couldn't find anybody that would say anything bad about him. There were scouts predicting Gordon to be top 15 overall next year if he stayed in school. There is next to nothing as far as video on him, I suppose he reminds me of Demaryius Thomas.

I know if he went to Idaho and took a year's free ride along with practice and facilities usage and then promptly bailed for the supplemental draft, I'd be disappointed (in the most mild terms). The scoop is supposedly his family is in trouble financially so I guess that's the other side of the coin. Anyways that's not what I'm asking about.

Is this guy the beast as advertised? Did he go to class and take school seriously? Is he still smoking weed? What kind of guy did my team draft?

TIA. Sucks for the Utes he didn't stay if he's the guy they are selling us.
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Are you seriously asking this? Of course he still smokes weed.
 
Well that's one down. Thanks.

Edit: Still looking for some local info. Maybe it's just going to be the field that matters.
 
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Still hoping for something.
 
He was kicked off the team for weed (as was noted), BUT he absolutely killed it playing for the scout team. Reports out of camp were that if the ball was even close, it didn't matter who was near, he was catching it. I was pumped to see him play this year.

ESPN had him rated higher than the WR taken #21 overall in the 2011 draft.
 
Something else to go along with this, is Utah is very, very good at developing defensive backs. I think they have had 4 drafted the last 5 years, and even last year had a CB make the Raider's roster. Currently they have two young players that were Freshman All-Americans in the secondary. So, it isn't like he was dominating BYU's secondary. He was dominating legit, NFL prospect defensive backs.

People say this all the time, but if he keeps his head on straight and only smokes after the drug testing, he could be very, very good. 6'4", 220lbs, fast, with amazing hands. He was a 4.40 runner, and has been compared to Terrell Owens.
 
So many funny things. He's playing for his Brownies (what kind of brownies). He's been compared to Terrell Owens (in more ways than just performance on the field). If I weren't such a homer Ute fan, I'd be embarrassed that we even had him on the team for... a few minutes.
 
CONAN said:
Utes and their fans are potheads.
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Go and research some of your players/past player's histories:

McMahon, Sark, Van Noy, Alema Harrington, Muirbrook, Bryant Atkinson, Brad Martin (who sued BYU over it and received a settlement), etc, etc, etc, etc.

Alema said in the 80's half the football team was addicted to Rx pills administered by the BYU staff.

Des News said:
Ten years later, linebacker Brad Martin, who became addicted to Lortab after suffering spinal injuries in a car accident on the way to practice, hired a lawyer to sort it out. BYU paid at least $34,000 for rehab through 2002. Martin continued to struggle and sued the university two years later.

His lawsuit contended that BYU "continually allowed me to play football despite my injuries" and "provided me with an abundance of painkillers ... to allow me to play through the pain in my last football season."

Martin and BYU settled out of court. He died last year of causes related to drug abuse."
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Compared to Utah:

DES NEWS said:
Our athletes have very little access to pain medications," Powell of the U. medical team said. Tate affirms that, saying players practically have to sign their lives away to get a Tylenol."
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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/695222701/Addiction-and-athletes-Whos-to-blame.html?pg=all

DES NEWS said:
"Locally, two BYU football players the past six years died of causes related to heavy, prolonged narcotics use after an injury.

Former offensive guard Craig Garrick died at age 41 after abdominal surgery six years ago last month. He underwent at least eight knee surgeries during and after his football career.

In May 2006, 30-year-old former linebacker Brad Martin was found dead in his Sugar House home. Martin's spiral began after injuring his neck in a car accident on the way to football practice."
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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/695222184/Painkillers-the-dark-side-of-sports.html?pg=all

VAI SIKAHEMA said:
I had BYU and NFL teammates who were drug addicts. I'll use their names because their addiction is a matter of public record.

After I gave LaVell Edwards a verbal commitment that I'd accept a scholarship to BYU, he asked me to use my influence on a number of fellow Arizonans whom BYU was recruiting who had yet to make a commitment but whom BYU wanted badly. Among them was a speedy wide receiver from Tempe High named Scott Norberg, who ultimately signed with Nebraska. The other was a tall, skinny and very athletic linebacker from Mountain View High named Todd Shell, who became one of BYU's best defensive players in the Edwards era. Norberg would leave Nebraska after his freshman year to serve a mission in Argentina, before transferring to BYU upon his return.

I don't know when and how they developed their drug problems, but they did and it ultimately cost Norberg his life and Shell a promising coaching career. Norberg died in a Phoenix jail in 1996 at the hands of 14 guards...
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https://www.deseretnews.com/article...rom-the-dangers-of-drug-addiction.html?pg=all

#BYUFantasyLand
 
green, you are an idiot, so is conan, but this post is just as retarded as the ute players and fans are pot heads posts above it. Pick and choose BYU failures and throw in one tiny quote from Utah implying Utah has had no problems. You dumb dork.
 
Lol at green on tilt trying to show Utah is sqeaky clean. Sorry, Bro. Utes smoke the tree. Go smoke a bowl so you can calm down.
 
kennykyle said:
green, you are an idiot, so is conan, but this post is just as retarded as the ute players and fans are pot heads posts above it. Pick and choose BYU failures and throw in one tiny quote from Utah implying Utah has had no problems. You dumb dork.
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Actually, you and Conan are the dumb dorks, emphasis on DUMB. I never once said that Utah didn't have players that partook every now and then. I said BYU encouraged their players to become drug addicts. HUGE difference.
 
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