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DutchJazzer

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i went over rondo's stats and realised even if he breaks the assist record 14.5 apg
will it be impresive.
on a side note if he does it stockton avg 17.2ppg and 2.7steals. so far rondo has 11.4pgg and 2.2spg

suddenly rondos season does not seem impressive to me. on a side not i think it would be a good thing if stockton records get broken. since assist are underrated. by breaking it it would get some media attention. and some young kids watchoing the game today will see without scoring you can make a name for yourself in the nba by asisting
 
lol i just see it as good for the game we need another assist dominating guard(single seaosn record that is) as i think sotckton's carreer total record is unbreakable.

but as it stands now rondo wont break season record
 
Stockton's record will never be broken - season or career. For the most part the PG position has de-evolved.

Rondo's numbers are impressive; but he's in an unsual situation. He's a young guy surrounded by 3 veteran future Hall of Famers who have figured out how to play together by using Rondo as a catalyst. When they retire Rondo's points will go up and his assists will go down.
 
records were made to be broken..Thats why you win CHIPS cuz those cant be taken away. Newsflas everyone thought noone would break babe ruths hr record and roger maris did. You are a shallow person if you want noone to touch the record. Records meant to be broken. I agree with original poster that its good for the game and good for the kids to see
 
ncoloradojazz said:
records were made to be broken..Thats why you win CHIPS cuz those cant be taken away. Newsflas everyone thought noone would break babe ruths hr record and roger maris did.
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What are you talking about - players had been coming close to Maris' record for years. About a dozen players hit 50 or more home runs before the record was broken in 1998. Home runs were becoming more frequent even before the steriod scandal.

As a whole, assist numbers have gone down since the last time Stockton had 1K assists in a season. When Kidd and Nash retire in the next year or so, it will go down even more. Most PG's coming out of college today - Rose, Wall, etc are shoot first PG's. The game has gone away from the single high volume assist player.

And that's just single season - Stockton's career numbers are about as close to untouchable as any major record.
 
ncoloradojazz said:
If my fav player growing up Magic Johnson wouldnt have been ran out of the nba from D*cks like Karl Malone he would have the record
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Come out of your Laker fan closet already will ya, ncj!
 
ncoloradojazz said:
You are a shallow person if you want noone to touch the record.
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No, I'm not.

ncoloradojazz said:
If my fav player growing up Magic Johnson wouldnt have been ran out of the nba from D*cks like Karl Malone he would have the record
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You're sort of right. His leaving the NBA did involve a d*ck, so you're correct there. But technically speaking his lack of protection from the in and out offense is why he doesn't have the record.
 
candrew said:
What are you talking about - players had been coming close to Maris' record for years. About a dozen players hit 50 or more home runs before the record was broken in 1998. Home runs were becoming more frequent even before the steriod scandal.

As a whole, assist numbers have gone down since the last time Stockton had 1K assists in a season. When Kidd and Nash retire in the next year or so, it will go down even more. Most PG's coming out of college today - Rose, Wall, etc are shoot first PG's. The game has gone away from the single high volume assist player.

And that's just single season - Stockton's career numbers are about as close to untouchable as any major record.
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although rondo dwill and cp3 are more pass first pg's
 
DutchJazzer said:
i went over rondo's stats and realised even if he breaks the assist record 14.5 apg
will it be impresive.
on a side note if he does it stockton avg 17.2ppg and 2.7steals. so far rondo has 11.4pgg and 2.2spg
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That Stockton season is really impressive, but I don't think there is anyway in the world that Rondo could duplicate that given the current makeup of the Celtics. 1989-90 Stockton was an anomaly...setting a record for APG, while at the same time being his team's second leading scorer. That's the piece that Rondo doesn't have: while he can score, he's not called upon to be his team's second option.

In fact, as I look at Stockton's career stats, the next year might be even more impressive. His scoring stayed just as high, and assists declined only slightly, but he was able to maintain both in the year when Jeff Malone came to Utah and became the second option. Pretty amazing.
 
Rondo's at 13.8 APG, 11.2 APG over this last 5 and I'm willing to bet it's under 13 by season's end. The 24 assists against the Knicks (the team that everyone seems to have fluky phenomenal games against) gave that average quite a bump.

Stockton's alltime assist record is cemented in stone, and I think his single season assist total and average is pretty safe for the forseeable future.
 
Rondo won't break it

And for anyone concerned about Stocktons all time Assists being broken...you do realize that someone has to average 10.5 apg for 19 seasons...and that is basically 19 true seasons (albeit a shortened season and one injury filled season)...I don't think anyone will average that many for that long without being injured.

That record is nearly impossible to break with the current talent in the NBA.
 
Agree, the all-time assist record is Stockton's forever. Another way to put it into perspective, is take Steve Nash's highest single-season assist total. Nash would have to maintain that pace for over 17 seasons to surpass Stockton.

As far as the single-season assist record, only 3 players have ever surpassed 1,000 assists in a season. Isiah Thomas and Kevin Porter once each. Stockton did it 7 times. Don't see anyone approaching that territory either.
 
ncoloradojazz said:
If my fav player growing up Magic Johnson wouldnt have been ran out of the nba from D*cks like Karl Malone he would have the record
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Pretty sure he was ran out of the league by what he did with his OWN di....uh...member.

That said, Magic still would not have ended where Stock did. No way he would have played 16 seasons (what he needed at his career avg to hit close to Stock). He had his rings and the Lake-show was beginning to fade in the late 80's and into the 90's.

Stock's records will stand, if not forever, at least for a very very long time. 20 year point guards are just not an everyday occurrence, especially any with even close to that level of skill.
 
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