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Hedda Gambler

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I`ve been thinking about some trade ideas for the off-season to get my mind off this terrible season. I am all in on the tank, but look forward to having a good team to cheer for again.

The proposed trades are ambitious as I`m aiming for upside. They are very likely unrealistic and probably either silly or downright insane.

Trade 1 - Get another very good pick in this years draft

Utah in/New Orleans out: Dejounte Murray, 2025 1st round pick from New Orleans
New Orleans in/Utah out: John Collins, Keyonte George, 2025 #1 pick from Minnesota

Dejounte Murray is out for most of next season. If the Pelicans want to compete next year, they have to improve. In this trade, we give them a good vet, a promising player and take the dead salary of Murray off their hands. The Pelicans gain a lot of flexibility with both Collins` and CJ`s contacts being expiring next year, The price for this is a big as it involves them giving up their first round pick this year. For the purpose of this trade, we assume that they get #4 in the lottery and that the Wolves pick is #20.

The Jazz get two top picks this year, remove a solid vet from the rotation and make sure that we will not be the team to overpay KG on his next deal. Murray sits for most of next year and we commit to playing all the young guys along with Markkanen and Kessler. If Murray comes back in good shape for the 2026-2027 season, we play him and see how he fits. If he is done, we sit him and treat him as salary filler for the 27-28 season when he is an expiring contract.

Murray`s cap hit over the next three years is $31,5, $33,6 and $31,6 million. His salary is "only" $26,8, $28,8 and $30,8 million as his trade kicker was activated when he was traded fron Atlanta. The Hawks paid out $12 million to him in the trade, but that money is added on to his cap sheet. I am not sure if he gets another trade bonus if he is traded again, but the Pelicans as the trading team will be the one who pays that money. His salary will be the same for us, but the cap hit will be even bigger.

Trade 2 - Help The Suns remain competetive

Suns out: Kevin Durant
Suns in: Lauri Markkanen

Rockets in: Kevin Durant
Rockets out: Fred VanVleet, 2029 1st round draft pick, best of their own, Dallas` and Phoenix`

Utah out: Lauri Markkanen
Utah in: Fred VanVleet, 2029 First Round Pick

The Suns grant Durant`s wish to go to a contending team. They get Markkanen as a replacement to ensure that they stay competitive. We want the Suns to be decent in the next 3-4 years so that they don`t trade Booker to get their picks pack. In 2031, both Booker and Markkanen will be well into their 30s and chances are they will be pretty bad. As we own their 2031 pick, this is good for us.

The Rockets take a gamble on Reed Shepperd being ready to replace FVV and that Durant will be enough of an addition to make them contenders. Durant`s salary fits nicely into their cap situation as he expires next year. If he likes it there and is willing to take less than the max, they can be really good for a couple of years.

The Jazz get FVV, who will be on the trade block immediately. We let Markkanen go to ensure that Collin Sexton will be the only proven vet on the team. The return is "only" one first round draft pick in addition to whatever we may get for trading FVV, but that pick can be really good.

Trade 3 - Gamble on the roulette wheel hitting zero

Jazz In/Nuggets out: Zeke Nnaji, first round pick swap rights in 2027 and/or 2029, protected from #6 to #30
Jazz out/Nuggets in: Minimum allowable cash considerations

The Nuggets first round picks in 2027 and 2029 are owed to OKC in form of swap rights that are procted in the 1-5 range both years. If the picks are between 1-5 any of these years, Denver retains their pick. The odds of the Denver Nuggets getting a top five picks in 2027 and/or 2029 are very small. Jokic would have to be done for basically the whole year and a lot other stuff must happen like it did with the Pelicans this year. With this trade, we make a huge financial gamble in taking on the salary of Zeke Nnaji for the rights to swap any of our available picks in 2027 and 2029 with the Nuggets` top five draft pick.
 
I'd do your first trade, but I'm not sure that N.O. does.
I'd pass on the second trade. I'm ready to trade Markk, but not for VanVleet and a single 1st.
I'm meh on the 3rd trade, a potential better bite at the apple? Sure I guess.
 
I`ve been thinking about some trade ideas for the off-season to get my mind off this terrible season. I am all in on the tank, but look forward to having a good team to cheer for again.

The proposed trades are ambitious as I`m aiming for upside. They are very likely unrealistic and probably either silly or downright insane.

Trade 1 - Get another very good pick in this years draft

Utah in/New Orleans out: Dejounte Murray, 2025 1st round pick from New Orleans
New Orleans in/Utah out: John Collins, Keyonte George, 2025 #1 pick from Minnesota

Dejounte Murray is out for most of next season. If the Pelicans want to compete next year, they have to improve. In this trade, we give them a good vet, a promising player and take the dead salary of Murray off their hands. The Pelicans gain a lot of flexibility with both Collins` and CJ`s contacts being expiring next year, The price for this is a big as it involves them giving up their first round pick this year. For the purpose of this trade, we assume that they get #4 in the lottery and that the Wolves pick is #20.

The Jazz get two top picks this year, remove a solid vet from the rotation and make sure that we will not be the team to overpay KG on his next deal. Murray sits for most of next year and we commit to playing all the young guys along with Markkanen and Kessler. If Murray comes back in good shape for the 2026-2027 season, we play him and see how he fits. If he is done, we sit him and treat him as salary filler for the 27-28 season when he is an expiring contract.

Murray`s cap hit over the next three years is $31,5, $33,6 and $31,6 million. His salary is "only" $26,8, $28,8 and $30,8 million as his trade kicker was activated when he was traded fron Atlanta. The Hawks paid out $12 million to him in the trade, but that money is added on to his cap sheet. I am not sure if he gets another trade bonus if he is traded again, but the Pelicans as the trading team will be the one who pays that money. His salary will be the same for us, but the cap hit will be even bigger.

Trade 2 - Help The Suns remain competetive

Suns out: Kevin Durant
Suns in: Lauri Markkanen

Rockets in: Kevin Durant
Rockets out: Fred VanVleet, 2029 1st round draft pick, best of their own, Dallas` and Phoenix`

Utah out: Lauri Markkanen
Utah in: Fred VanVleet, 2029 First Round Pick

The Suns grant Durant`s wish to go to a contending team. They get Markkanen as a replacement to ensure that they stay competitive. We want the Suns to be decent in the next 3-4 years so that they don`t trade Booker to get their picks pack. In 2031, both Booker and Markkanen will be well into their 30s and chances are they will be pretty bad. As we own their 2031 pick, this is good for us.

The Rockets take a gamble on Reed Shepperd being ready to replace FVV and that Durant will be enough of an addition to make them contenders. Durant`s salary fits nicely into their cap situation as he expires next year. If he likes it there and is willing to take less than the max, they can be really good for a couple of years.

The Jazz get FVV, who will be on the trade block immediately. We let Markkanen go to ensure that Collin Sexton will be the only proven vet on the team. The return is "only" one first round draft pick in addition to whatever we may get for trading FVV, but that pick can be really good.

Trade 3 - Gamble on the roulette wheel hitting zero

Jazz In/Nuggets out: Zeke Nnaji, first round pick swap rights in 2027 and/or 2029, protected from #6 to #30
Jazz out/Nuggets in: Minimum allowable cash considerations

The Nuggets first round picks in 2027 and 2029 are owed to OKC in form of swap rights that are procted in the 1-5 range both years. If the picks are between 1-5 any of these years, Denver retains their pick. The odds of the Denver Nuggets getting a top five picks in 2027 and/or 2029 are very small. Jokic would have to be done for basically the whole year and a lot other stuff must happen like it did with the Pelicans this year. With this trade, we make a huge financial gamble in taking on the salary of Zeke Nnaji for the rights to swap any of our available picks in 2027 and 2029 with the Nuggets` top five draft pick.
I love the first one
 
trade cody to OKC for our first back next year
Unless we win the Cooper Flagg sweepstakes I am just not worried about being bottom 8 next year, the West looks like it might be even more brutal with Spurs/Blazers joining the race.

I am still just higher on Cody than most but this feels like an 80% of just giving him away for nothing
 
Player Option:
If a player has a player option for a future year, it means they have the choice to either stay with the team or become an unrestricted free agent.
 
If you get a good deal for Collins,you'll trade him and replace with the 2025 first pick in the starting five. Unless you don't get a good trade, you'll keep him and decide whether you can get him locked in for a team friendly extension, or maybe get a trade through later, or hang on to him.

You need to also move some shooting guards to maximize minutes and fga's for guys like Collier and our new rookies, for developmental reasons, and for Lauri (and John if he stays), for their asset value.

I don't think you'll get a good offer for Lauri this summer, but if you do, you let go, give him the opportunity to play post-season in his mid-prime, and go for even a stronger youth movement. Timeline wise,it'd be the most sensible way.
 
Unless we win the Cooper Flagg sweepstakes I am just not worried about being bottom 8 next year, the West looks like it might be even more brutal with Spurs/Blazers joining the race.

I am still just higher on Cody than most but this feels like an 80% of just giving him away for nothing

Just a quick reminder that we need to be a bottom 4 team to guarantee a top 8 pick. We are most likely safe at bottom 6 (96% chance of keeping pick). So I tend to agree that we should be able to achieve bottom 6 year if we are trying.
 
I`ve been thinking about some trade ideas for the off-season to get my mind off this terrible season. I am all in on the tank, but look forward to having a good team to cheer for again.

The proposed trades are ambitious as I`m aiming for upside. They are very likely unrealistic and probably either silly or downright insane.

Trade 1 - Get another very good pick in this years draft

Utah in/New Orleans out: Dejounte Murray, 2025 1st round pick from New Orleans
New Orleans in/Utah out: John Collins, Keyonte George, 2025 #1 pick from Minnesota

Dejounte Murray is out for most of next season. If the Pelicans want to compete next year, they have to improve. In this trade, we give them a good vet, a promising player and take the dead salary of Murray off their hands. The Pelicans gain a lot of flexibility with both Collins` and CJ`s contacts being expiring next year, The price for this is a big as it involves them giving up their first round pick this year. For the purpose of this trade, we assume that they get #4 in the lottery and that the Wolves pick is #20.

The Jazz get two top picks this year, remove a solid vet from the rotation and make sure that we will not be the team to overpay KG on his next deal. Murray sits for most of next year and we commit to playing all the young guys along with Markkanen and Kessler. If Murray comes back in good shape for the 2026-2027 season, we play him and see how he fits. If he is done, we sit him and treat him as salary filler for the 27-28 season when he is an expiring contract.

Murray`s cap hit over the next three years is $31,5, $33,6 and $31,6 million. His salary is "only" $26,8, $28,8 and $30,8 million as his trade kicker was activated when he was traded fron Atlanta. The Hawks paid out $12 million to him in the trade, but that money is added on to his cap sheet. I am not sure if he gets another trade bonus if he is traded again, but the Pelicans as the trading team will be the one who pays that money. His salary will be the same for us, but the cap hit will be even bigger.

Trade 2 - Help The Suns remain competetive

Suns out: Kevin Durant
Suns in: Lauri Markkanen

Rockets in: Kevin Durant
Rockets out: Fred VanVleet, 2029 1st round draft pick, best of their own, Dallas` and Phoenix`

Utah out: Lauri Markkanen
Utah in: Fred VanVleet, 2029 First Round Pick

The Suns grant Durant`s wish to go to a contending team. They get Markkanen as a replacement to ensure that they stay competitive. We want the Suns to be decent in the next 3-4 years so that they don`t trade Booker to get their picks pack. In 2031, both Booker and Markkanen will be well into their 30s and chances are they will be pretty bad. As we own their 2031 pick, this is good for us.

The Rockets take a gamble on Reed Shepperd being ready to replace FVV and that Durant will be enough of an addition to make them contenders. Durant`s salary fits nicely into their cap situation as he expires next year. If he likes it there and is willing to take less than the max, they can be really good for a couple of years.

The Jazz get FVV, who will be on the trade block immediately. We let Markkanen go to ensure that Collin Sexton will be the only proven vet on the team. The return is "only" one first round draft pick in addition to whatever we may get for trading FVV, but that pick can be really good.

Trade 3 - Gamble on the roulette wheel hitting zero

Jazz In/Nuggets out: Zeke Nnaji, first round pick swap rights in 2027 and/or 2029, protected from #6 to #30
Jazz out/Nuggets in: Minimum allowable cash considerations

The Nuggets first round picks in 2027 and 2029 are owed to OKC in form of swap rights that are procted in the 1-5 range both years. If the picks are between 1-5 any of these years, Denver retains their pick. The odds of the Denver Nuggets getting a top five picks in 2027 and/or 2029 are very small. Jokic would have to be done for basically the whole year and a lot other stuff must happen like it did with the Pelicans this year. With this trade, we make a huge financial gamble in taking on the salary of Zeke Nnaji for the rights to swap any of our available picks in 2027 and 2029 with the Nuggets` top five draft pick.
Murray has been a thought for me too. perfect tank trade. There are some nasty contracts that we might be able to take on this summer if someone attaches something good.

NO won't send a top 4 pick but they have other picks in 2026 I'd think would be on the table potentially.
 
I don't think it makes sense for HOU to trade FVV, they need him badly. Without them they are a completely mid team and it wouldn't make sense for them to trade one their best (if not their best) players in a KD move. I think a Green+Shep package makes a lot more sense for them and also likely more sense for us as well. Maybe you throw Cam in there as well, but I think Brice is just better than him and not a locker room problem.
 
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