The Jazz have the 5th best point differential in the west
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Miggs
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I'd like to blame Hayward here but that's not fair. With no Favors and no Burks, Hayward is virtually our only go-to guy down the stretch which is not only additional pressure on him but also easier for opponents to defend.
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The difference between 4 and 5 is huge in this season's top-heavy West.
Doublea
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Ya I don't think we can blame one guy for close games. A lot of the close games we have lost are where we've come back to tie it and then barely lose.
It's not even the offense that's the problem. Utah's offense in close games has been terrific. They just can't get stops.
Miggs
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Some good points here.
Can anyone provide Burke's and Neto's on court/off court stats as well as defensive metrics. That is, I recall last season someone posting a stat that said Exum was the 4th best pg in the league at staying in front of his man or something. That stat and other individual defensive ones.
Anyone?
Can anyone provide Burke's and Neto's on court/off court stats as well as defensive metrics. That is, I recall last season someone posting a stat that said Exum was the 4th best pg in the league at staying in front of his man or something. That stat and other individual defensive ones.
Anyone?
NAOS
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I don't know what the stats say, but Hood uses a ton of possessions down the stretch of close games. So, I disagree strongly with your last sentence.
NAOS
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We've hit clutch shots, but I wouldn't call our offense terrific in close games. It's one-on-one, and we get very few layups. I don't think you can expect many wins when you play that way in those situations.
vegas
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This. It's a roller coaster, sometimes a great play is made defensively, only to have a small or large lapse for the next three plays.
David Locke was saying on the radio that in games where the score is within 5 points with 3 minutes or fewer left, Utah's offensive efficiency is 5th in the NBA and their defensive efficiency is 23rd.
That San Antonio differential is crazy. Historic, perhaps... I wonder what the all time record is?
We passed Dallas last night. We just need to get healthy now and get those into the win column!
Doublea
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I believe I read that if they finished the season today that would be the new record and Golden State's would be 4th.
People aren't seeing how good San Antonio is because of Golden State. San Antonio is probably going to win a championship, imho.
NAOS
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cool?
I'm looking at the Ws and Ls and I've got a few hypotheses. I'm not celebrating the offense, if that's okay with you.
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What are your hypotheses, and can you back em up with numbers other than the W-L column? I haven't been able to watch many of these close ones-- and it doesn't do much to dismiss the stats of others when you don't bring forth any of your own.
Clippers are top of tier 2
Warriors are on top of tier 1.
Big gap between tier 1 and 2 that I think will expand over the second half
NAOS
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The offense (in general, but specifically down the stretch of a close game) is very predictable and has very few moving parts. 2 to 4 of the defenders basically get to take the play off (Rudy and Booker are especially easy to defend when we go one-on-one like we have). Winning basketball pulls the last strands of energy from the opponent by making them defend. We're not doing that, and opposing offenses have a little extra in the tank.
And, while we are making some great clutch shots, most of them are of the high-degree-of-difficulty variety. In other words, not the kind you want to bet on making on a consistent basis. And consistency in these situations is precisely the goal. In other words, this offensive efficiency that Locke's stats are showing is fool's gold. IMO.
Your hypotheses don't line up with reality. This isn't even subjective. Our offensive efficiency is currently 9th in the NBA. Defensive efficiency is below league average.
https://www.nbastuffer.com/2015-2016_NBA_Regular_Season_Advanced_Stats.html
You can point out whatever flaws in the offense you want, and they do exist, but our offense, on a per-possession basis, is top 10 in the NBA. It's been even better in clutch situations. It's not the reason we're losing games.