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Yellow BRICS Road.... New "Silk Road" on rails

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The whole world is upside down, again.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/12/chinas-new-silk-road-europe-will-leave-america-behind

I can't believe I'm linking Mother Jones for starting this thread, but the article is a good one, and an important one. I've been following this topic for several years as it has developed. As some of you may be aware, I like progress. This is real progress. It is revolutionary progress, and it's as important to the future of mankind as the American Revolution was.

It could also be the shot heard 'round the world, that will once more (in the same tradition as WWI and WWII) panic the British oligarchy into inciting another world war.... because, fundamentally, it will end the English hegemony on a worldwide maritime trade economy the British have depended upon since Sir Francis Drake won the sea for the Brits.

Trump has been co-opted by the Brits into virtually inciting a new world war. We have to stop it, now. Trump is going in May to an international meeting on the Silk Road. We have to encourage him to get the US on this train.
 
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BRICS is an emerging economic partnership rising in a direct challenge to the US/British system of world commerce, and it aims to relieve its member states somewhat from the impending financial collapse due to the irresponsible fiat currency financial markets of London and New York. Here's a link that is pretty extensive on the subject:

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...erging-economic-order/brics_show/53946132.cms

Of course, the US and GB could just join. That would be pretty smart.

dunno, tho. Will our MIC corps be willing to let peace happen? Maybe their corporate profits in military ordnance, hardware, and technological armaments is just toooooooo attractive. Even if Trump puts a pencil to the deals and insists on reasonable rates for stuff.....

I'm voting for the new efficient trade and development in the place of WWIII.
 
The next thing:

China is hosting a Silk Road conference in May, inviting key national leaders worldwide. Britain's May and the US's Trump are invited.
 
Stop milking it. I'll read the stuff once I get a chance! Sheesh.
 
ONE LOVE said:
I thought Trump wants to cut ties with China? That's the opposite of progress IMO.
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The fundamental thing about Trump that everyone needs to keep in mind, is his notion of "The Art of the Deal". I think it includes playing hardball, saying whatever it takes to get people off their rocker. He'd rather build stuff than blow anything up, really.
 
babe said:
The fundamental thing about Trump that everyone needs to keep in mind, is his notion of "The Art of the Deal". I think it includes playing hardball, saying whatever it takes to get people off their rocker. He'd rather build stuff than blow anything up, really.
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Yeah if making the most money you can and ripping people off is your only goal in life...


But if we're talking about how to create 'world peace', I don't think ripping people off and making them angry or un-cooperative is the best way of achieving it.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Yeah if making the most money you can and ripping people off is your only goal in life...


But if we're talking about how to create 'world peace', I don't think ripping people off and making them angry or un-cooperative is the best way of achieving it.
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I think Trump does more win-win deals than ripoffs. People who listen to the sore loser libs this year are angry, but it's not Trumps' fault. Spoiled brats used to havin' their way with the world now suddenly bawling "it ain't fair".

The Dem party in the US and the corporate globalists, fixated on population reduction via moving third worlders into Western slums on economic terms that convinces them to do birth control and abortions, consider it "dangerous" not to just blow people up whenever there is a pretext for war. That's your side, bro. Of course the US Republican Party has been complicit in it as well, except for a few like Rand Paul who don't consider it wise for the US to go a-bombing over the little brick huts of the Mideast.

Time to stop with the cool aid. Oh, google Jonestown if you don't know what I mean about the cool aid.

BRICS and "The Silk Road" are being panned by the London financial men and their American stooges because it is fundamentally a revolution that will sustain human life on a larger scale. And I did say "sustain" as in long, long term.
 
babe said:
I think Trump does more win-win deals that ripoffs. People who listen to the sore loser libs this year are angry, but it's not Trumps'fault. Spoiled brats used to havin' their way with the world now suddenly bawling "it ain't fair".

The Dem party in the US and the globalists fixated on population reduction via moving third worlder into Western slums on economic terms that convinces them to do birth control and abortions consider it "dangerous" not to just blow people up whenever there is a pretext for war. That's your side, bro.

Time to stop with the cool aid.

BRICS and "The Silk Road" are being panned by the London financial men and their American stooges because it is fundamentally a revolution that will sustain human life on a larger scale. And I did say "sustain" as in long, long term.
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So you support the silk road, but Trump doesn't?
 
babe said:
I think Trump does more win-win deals than ripoffs. People who listen to the sore loser libs this year are angry, but it's not Trumps' fault. Spoiled brats used to havin' their way with the world now suddenly bawling "it ain't fair".

The Dem party in the US and the corporate globalists, fixated on population reduction via moving third worlders into Western slums on economic terms that convinces them to do birth control and abortions, consider it "dangerous" not to just blow people up whenever there is a pretext for war. That's your side, bro. Of course the US Republican Party has been complicit in it as well, except for a few like Rand Paul who don't consider it wise for the US to go a-bombing over the little brick huts of the Mideast.

Time to stop with the cool aid. Oh, google Jonestown if you don't know what I mean about the cool aid.

BRICS and "The Silk Road" are being panned by the London financial men and their American stooges because it is fundamentally a revolution that will sustain human life on a larger scale. And I did say "sustain" as in long, long term.
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Are you aware that if Trump had put all his money in an index or mutual fund in 1977 he'd be worth 6 billion vs the 3.6 billion he is currently worth?

That means he hasn't kept pace with the market.

He and Warren Buffett were worth the same amount of money in 1977. 100 Million dollars each. That's after Trump's dad GAVE him 40 milllion about 5 years earlier and held his hand through those first years of real estate deals. Today Warren Buffett is worth 60 billion vs Trump's 3.6 billion.

Trump was handed a fortune and has UNDER-PERFORMED with it vs granny's 401K.
 
ONE LOVE said:
So you support the silk road, but Trump doesn't?
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I think it's China's baby. Trump is being invited as a sort of God-father, maybe. Not sure he won't just decide to do his own version of trade and transportation infrastructure.

The visionaries who've been selling this idea even want to build a tunnel under the Bering Strait and a monorail between the US and Asia. Those magnet drives that hold the train a few millimeters about the tracks while moving the train at 300 mph can on scale be competitive with boats especially for cargo that must be unloaded, reloaded and freighted inland. Can you imagine international trade at those speeds.....
 
Bulletproof said:
Are you aware that if Trump had put all his money in an index or mutual fund in 1977 he'd be worth 6 billion vs the 3.6 billion he is currently worth?

That means he hasn't kept pace with the market.

He and Warren Buffett were worth the same amount of money in 1977. 100 Million dollars each. That's after Trump's dad GAVE him 40 milllion about 5 years earlier and held his hand through those first years of real estate deals. Today Warren Buffett is worth 60 billion vs Trump's 3.6 billion.

Trump was handed a fortune and has UNDER-PERFORMED with it vs granny's 401K.
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That's often the case with market strategists selling investment guidance as well. But the thing is, Trump does build stuff, and has survived adverse markets which are just beginning to recover.
 
Also babe, it seems like you always say the Brits are behind everything, and are now saying the Brits are pressuring Trump to doing all these things including the missile strikes in Syria.


Is Trump not his own man? If anything, he's the last person on earth to be 'pressured' into making these big decisions, right?


I mean you can't have it both ways babe, either the brits are behind it and Trump is following them, or Trump is his own man and therefore the Brits aren't as influential. I mean, which is it?
 
Bulletproof said:
Are you aware that if Trump had put all his money in an index or mutual fund in 1977 he'd be worth 6 billion vs the 3.6 billion he is currently worth?

That means he hasn't kept pace with the market.

He and Warren Buffett were worth the same amount of money in 1977. 100 Million dollars each. That's after Trump's dad GAVE him 40 milllion about 5 years earlier and held his hand through those first years of real estate deals. Today Warren Buffett is worth 60 billion vs Trump's 3.6 billion.

Trump was handed a fortune and has UNDER-PERFORMED with it vs granny's 401K.
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So your numbers are off a little bit. Assuming he invested his self proclaimed worth of $322mm in an index fund based on the S&P 500, he would now be worth closer to about $15 billion or more.

The problem in assessing his wealth is that so much of it in the early days was based off of his father's signature. For example, banks wanted Fred Trumps signature, not Donald's for most of those early deals. He is claiming credit for them, but he is not really the one with the muscle. Also, he was so leveraged that he was literally in billions of dollars of debt. The general thought with taking that much risk, and going into such high debt is that you will theoretically far outperform the index funds. Even by Trump's estimation of his worth, he has at best matched the index on the high end, and barely beat inflation on the low end.

This is the guy who knows how to make the best deals though...
 
babe said:
That's often the case with market strategists selling investment guidance as well. But the thing is, Trump does build stuff, and has survived adverse markets which are just beginning to recover.
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Uhh, if you think the markets are just beginning to recover, you are a few years late. The markets are mostly robust markets at this point.

Your point about Trump being one of the drivers is fair. Murky, but fair. It's hard to tell what Trump actually did. He was certainly not JP Morgan or Andrew Carnegie. He may have "built stuff" but he was never the one employing the actual builders or makers or tradesman. In many past economies, the way Trump has made his money has been looked down upon with scorn. It is not the case today. The world needs visionaries who can create spaces for the ones doing the actual work, and Trump filled that need. I personally would rather look to people with higher moral fiber than Trump for that role, but that is a different discussion.
 
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