Gyp Rosetti
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We need a wing. What are your thoughts on him? His contract is bad but not awful.
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You are referring to Corey Maggette right? Definitely a better fit than Richard Hamilton. And his contract is better too. I seem to vaguely remember Jazz FO courting him at one point. He is averaging career low but that's because he has not been playing much. He could do well with Bell's minutes.
But the inevitable question is who do we let go for him? From a value standpoint I don't see why anyone would want Raja Bell. Perhaps Memo is a likely player to go in such a deal. I am not sure what the Bucks are lacking/needing at the moment. I'd definitely pick Magg over Rip though.
But the inevitable question is who do we let go for him? From a value standpoint I don't see why anyone would want Raja Bell. Perhaps Memo is a likely player to go in such a deal. I am not sure what the Bucks are lacking/needing at the moment. I'd definitely pick Magg over Rip though.
Gyp Rosetti
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Yeah, I was thinking Maggs for Memo. We'd eat a couple more million this year and in the future but if we're actually concerned about winning, I think this trade makes some sense with AK's deal coming off the books.
Then again, we could have just retained Wes at half the cost.
yes & didnt we bring him up years ago (about being selfish & horrible fit).
Not exactly sure what you mean by selfish, but he's averaging 1.3 assists per game which isn't much. However Raja Bell is averaging 1.6 assists Wes Matthews is averaging 1.9 and both are playing over 10 mins per game more than Maggette.
In general I think players playing the 2 are more "selfish" as their primary role is to score. And the Jazz really need someone who can score.
Gyp Rosetti
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Such a horrible fit that we offered him a contract before.
Chad Feldheimer
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He couldn't possibly be more ineffective as Memo/Bell have been this year.
yeah, back in 2003
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He's a wing which we so desperately need and has been crushing it lately since he's gotten PT. He can rebound well (which we need) and pass decently. He can go one-on-one and create and/or get to the line at high rates (which we need). He can, well, um, sort of shoot. His percentages are down this year but I think in the right situation, that would improve. He can also defend decently. That said, I'm not crazy about the idea. Like I said, the contract is bad. But it's not awful. And he'd be a huge upgrade over Bell imo.
Mr. McGibblets
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He gets to the free throw line, can create his own shot, makes the othe team's 2 man up on D and not just float in a zone like they some have, and he can hit the curl jumper.
But on the other hand, Matt Harpring hates him, he is "selfish," not as good on D as Bell, and tries to score a lot.
I guess that settles it - we don't need him, he obviously hurts far more than he'd help.
Yes, the Jazz need a wing, but if you think the offense is bad now, stick Maggette in the middle of it. Deron, Jefferson, and Maggette and one ball. Ouch. Maggette is not even close to being what the Jazz need. The Walking Corpse of Richard Hamilton would be a better fit, but his contract is too prohibitive.
Gyp Rosetti
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In hindsight, we'd then be stuck with his contract and Bell's. But Mr. Glass coming off the books makes it seem not so bad. And, um, who knows, maybe we can trade Bell, to say the Lakers who admittedly might have to make a move to shake things up.
Gyp Rosetti
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I hear you and realize Maggs has pretty much never won whereever he's gone (unless I'm forgetting some anomaly of a season) but we need someone dammit and I gotta think we saw something in him years ago to offer him that contract.
The 2003 offer was not a normal offer. Their first target was Elton Brand, but he jumped at Miami's offer sheet (which the Clippers matched). Then the Jazz went after Andre Miller and Brad Miller, both of whom signed elsewhere. The fanbase got restless. I've heard that the offersheet (and later the Jason Terry offer) was extended by the Jazz only because they had to put on the appearance of doing something. They knew full well that both offers would be matched. Then again, the Jazz were a team without an identity at the time. Stockton had retired and Malone left for the Lakers. The Jazz were trying to figure out how to market Andrei Kirilenko, Matt Harpring, Greg Ostertag, and John Amaechi. Things turned out well when they finally got their guy and Keon Clark came aboard.
Gyp Rosetti
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I'd rather trade Jeffersuck and Bell for the two.
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