New 2017-2018 capspace projections: 102M

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https://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/16859143/nba-salary-cap-projection-2017-18-season-lower-expected

An interesting piece of news that might be important for Utah's next year free agency came up in the last several days - the newest projection for next year's cap is DOWN to 102M(from 107-108M earlier).

This would mean two things
1. fewer teams will have capspace to offer max to Hayward.
2. the max for Hayward AND Gobert will be lower going forward

I feel like BOTH of those pieces of news are good for the Jazz.

 

[SCS]

How will the max for Hayward and Gobert be lower going forward? The cap is still going up, just not as much as first thought. Max contracts will still go up with the rising cap.

 

[fgcamel]

How will the max for Hayward and Gobert be lower going forward? The cap is still going up, just not as much as first thought. Max contracts will still go up with the rising cap.

Well they'll still be the same in terms of a percentage of the overall cap, but a lower dollar total.

 

[fishonjazz]

https://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/16859143/nba-salary-cap-projection-2017-18-season-lower-expected

An interesting piece of news that might be important for Utah's next year free agency came up in the last several days - the newest projection for next year's cap is DOWN to 102M(from 107-108M earlier).

This would mean two things
1. fewer teams will have capspace to offer max to Hayward.
2. the max for Hayward AND Gobert will be lower going forward

I feel like BOTH of those pieces of news are good for the Jazz.

Good to hear. Especially the part about Gobert and Hayward being a little bit cheaper.

 

[fishonjazz]

How will the max for Hayward and Gobert be lower going forward? The cap is still going up, just not as much as first thought. Max contracts will still go up with the rising cap.

Cause the cap was thought to be higher when we sign hayward so his percentage of the cap would be a bigger amount. If the cap is lower then his percentage will be the exact same but the dollar amount will be less.

 

[SCS]

Cause the cap was thought to be higher when we sign hayward so his percentage of the cap would be a bigger amount. If the cap is lower then his percentage will be the exact same but the dollar amount will be less.

It will be lower than we first assumed with cap projected to be 107-108 m but still higher than it is right now. The cap right now is 94 million, next year if it's 102 million max contracts will still be more than they are today.

 

[fishonjazz]

It will be lower than we first assumed with cap projected to be 107-108 m but still higher than it is right now. The cap right now is 94 million, next year if it's 102 million max contracts will still be more than they are today.

Lower is better than higher. When the cap was being projected at close to 110 million I was hearing that Hayward new contract would begin at 32 million the first year and end at 39 million in the last year. With the cap now being projected at 102 million haywards contract wouldn't be 32-39 million anymore.
To me that is a good thing.

 

[MDAV28]

It will be lower than we first assumed with cap projected to be 107-108 m but still higher than it is right now. The cap right now is 94 million, next year if it's 102 million max contracts will still be more than they are today.

With the cap expected to be lower, the Jazz would be paying about $10 million less for a max contract w/ max raises for Hayward through the life of the contract.

 

[MDAV28]

Just looked what Hayward's contract would look like.. a 5-year max w/ max raises (7.5% each year) is a 5 year/$178 million (!!!) contract. That is crazy.

If Hayward were to sign a max elsewhere, he could at MOST get 4 year/$131 million. He would be leaving a guaranteed year and $47 million on the table assuming the Jazz offered a full-max.

 

[Miggs]

It also means the cap (and tax presumably) are about 5M less thus giving us less "room" to sign all these guys in the long run. Not sure overall if the news is therefore good or bad. Probably good though.

 

[SCS]

Just looked what Hayward's contract would look like.. a 5-year max w/ max raises (7.5% each year) is a 5 year/$178 million (!!!) contract. That is crazy.

If Hayward were to sign a max elsewhere, he could at MOST get 4 year/$131 million. He would be leaving a guaranteed year and $47 million on the table assuming the Jazz offered a full-max.

35.6 million a year... wow. That's a devastating contract to hand out (assuming they do) when we are a significant player away from contending and have all these other young guys to pay.

 

[MDAV28]

It also means the cap (and tax presumably) are about 5M less thus giving us less "room" to sign all these guys in the long run. Not sure overall if the news is therefore good or bad. Probably good though.

But contracts also go down because they are a percentage of what the cap is. It will only slightly effect the people who threw around money this Summer maybe projecting the cap would be around 108 million. The Jazz did not do that.

 

[MDAV28]

35.6 million a year... wow. That's a devastating contract to hand out (assuming they do) when we are a significant player away from contending and have all these other young guys to pay.

It's less about the actual dollar figure and more about the percentage of the cap space.

 

[jope]

I think people need to STOP talking about NBA contracts in dollars, and START talking about them in percentages of total salary.

a max contract then and now, will still impact the overall structure of the amount of money we have for other players exactly the same, regardless if the max is 15M/yr or 30M/yr. it is a reflection of a percentage of the overall cap.

 

[green]

It's horrible news for GS. If Durrant opts out next summer, they will have to clear 35 million to resign Durant. Their reign may be only one year before they have to gut that team. And they can't go over the cap to resign him.

 

[MDAV28]

It's horrible news for GS. If Durrant opts out next summer, they will have to clear 35 million to resign Durant. Their reign may be only one year before they have to gut that team. And they can't go over the cap to resign him.

I think next year all they have guaranteed is Klay and Draymond for $32 million. They'll be able to keep their 4 guys. They just will lose all their depth unless they can keep convincing people to stay or come for minimum deals.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I think next year all they have guaranteed is Klay and Draymond for $32 million. They'll be able to keep their 4 guys. They just will lose all their depth unless they can keep convincing people to stay or come for minimum deals.

They will likely lose Iggy and maybe Livingston, but will be able to keep the main 4 dudes.

 

[green]

I think next year all they have guaranteed is Klay and Draymond for $32 million. They'll be able to keep their 4 guys. They just will lose all their depth unless they can keep convincing people to stay or come for minimum deals.

As good as Steph and Klay were, it was their depth that killed you. Steph and Klay go to the bench, next thing you know, GS is up 5 more points.

That won't happen anymore. As great as their top 4 will be, once they go to the bench they will lose ground. That makes them beatable.

If they split them up, say play Curry and Durant while the other is on the bench, it makes them easier to defend.

They will still be really, really good. BUT, they will be beatable.

 

[MDAV28]

They will likely lose Iggy and maybe Livingston, but will be able to keep the main 4 dudes.

I'm confused... isn't this exactly what I just said?

 

[MDAV28]

As good as Steph and Klay were, it was their depth that killed you. Steph and Klay go to the bench, next thing you know, GS is up 5 more points.

That won't happen anymore. As great as their top 4 will be, once they go to the bench they will lose ground. That makes them beatable.

If they split them up, say play Curry and Durant while the other is on the bench, it makes them easier to defend.

They will still be really, really good. BUT, they will be beatable.

Oh for sure but having a super team like that they will still be favorites. Also ring-chasers will sign w/ them with the exceptions and minumums as long as they have that team together.