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Trade Favors Before Long

stitches said:
If they leave him wide open(what people suggest as an option for (not)guarding Favors) for the whole season, he will hit 50%. Most NBA players will if they knew nobody will be contesting their shots.
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I understand. The suggestion was ludicrous though and it won't happen for very long anyway. I'd be shocked if he even hits 45% from the year from the long 2.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
I understand. The suggestion was ludicrous though and it won't happen for very long anyway. I'd be shocked if he even hits 45% from the year from the long 2.
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I think he did that over a season a couple years ago.

It's ludicrous to suggest trading him for peanuts right now. Dude has been good and isn't the issue. We need more creation of offense and need to get to the free throw line. Trading Favs doesn't solve that.

If he had a contract we needed to get off then we could do it but he's expiring. Who's giving up a first for him... and what salary are we taking back. This thread is trash.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I think he did that over a season a couple years ago.

It's ludicrous to suggest trading him for peanuts right now. Dude has been good and isn't the issue. We need more creation of offense and need to get to the free throw line. Trading Favs doesn't solve that.

If he had a contract we needed to get off then we could do it but he's expiring. Who's giving up a first for him... and what salary are we taking back. This thread is trash.
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Please provide a link.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
Please provide a link.
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Shot 43% from straight away long 2... two years ago... look it up on vorped if you like...

I don't believe they tracked how open a shot was until recently. 45-50 on wide open long twos is reasonable to me. He has his legs under him. His jumper looks really good.

It ain't the best shot in the world but our offense isn't extremely dynamic. For those saying to trade Favs go ahead and propose some that both teams might do and let me know how that makes us better.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Shot 43% from straight away long 2... two years ago... look it up on vorped if you like...

I don't believe they tracked how open a shot was until recently. 45-50 on wide open long twos is reasonable to me. He has his legs under him. His jumper looks really good.

It ain't the best shot in the world but our offense isn't extremely dynamic. For those saying to trade Favs go ahead and propose some that both teams might do and let me know how that makes us better.
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Right. So he didn't shoot 50%. Or even 45%. He shot 43% (which sucks overall so far as efficiency goes) from straight on. I presume that overall for the long 2 he shot worse, maybe even much worse (40-41%?) since you chose to cherrypick his straight on stats.

In short, leaving him wide open is irrelevant. It's the ****ing NBA. Nobody is left wide open all season long.

Unless you're MKG maybe.

But I do agree that when he is wide open, he should take that shot, so long as he continues to hit it at a solid rate.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
Right. So he didn't shoot 50%. Or even 45%. He shot 43% (which sucks overall so far as efficiency goes) from straight on. I presume that overall for the long 2 he shot worse, maybe even much worse (40-41%?) since you chose to cherrypick his straight on stats.

In short, leaving him wide open is irrelevant. It's the ****ing NBA. Nobody is left wide open all season long.

Unless you're MKG maybe.

But I do agree that when he is wide open, he should take that shot, so long as he continues to hit it at a solid rate.
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I said 45-50 on wide open ones.. the 43% includes all from that distance. Defender distance was not tracked then.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
Right. So he didn't shoot 50%. Or even 45%. He shot 43% (which sucks overall so far as efficiency goes) from straight on. I presume that overall for the long 2 he shot worse, maybe even much worse (40-41%?) since you chose to cherrypick his straight on stats.

In short, leaving him wide open is irrelevant. It's the ****ing NBA. Nobody is left wide open all season long.

Unless you're MKG maybe.

But I do agree that when he is wide open, he should take that shot, so long as he continues to hit it at a solid rate.
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Also wasn't the whole argument that teams will play off of him and leave him wide open? I'm confused are they sagging way off him and guarding him too. If they close hard he's able to drive and has done well with his interior passing.

All of this is dumb right now... we'd get like a second and an equally flawed expiring. The optics and chemistry gets affected. There is no risk to keeping favors and I argue more risk in trading him.

If it was AB you could make an argument that we should trade him now to get off of his money.
 
After reading, here are my thoughts:

#1 - we should not try to trade him right now. However, we need to consider deals from contenders when we get into December. Somebody like Boston might try to fix/enhance their season by adding much needed post depth. They have picks and need to perform this season.

#2 - Favors shooting 45-50% from very long 2 just doesn't excite me or scare the opponent.

#3 - he has to rebound better. Those numbers are pathetic right now.

#4 - I still do not see him staying or us paying him fair money next summer. I just don't see it for us or for him.

#5 - Favors is playing well and I'm proud of him for his current form. Also, Joe and Udoh are doing great.

I'm looking forward to the rest of the season.

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Seems like like Favors has more value to the Jazz than any other player he could be traded for.

Also he is playing exclusively the 4 and 28 minutes a game. Both probably ideal for him. The Jazz bringing Udoh in as Gobert's back up allows Favors to stay at his preferred position.

It's apparent that this is who he is, and that knowledge is empowering. It allows the coaches to put him in a position to really succeed, not experiment with things that he is not suited for. No more trying to make him into DeMarcus Cousins without the aggressive petulance.

Also, that dude has put in the work to get healthy. Would be dope to see what he and Gobert can do together over time.

Or trade him for Bledsoe who give a f.
 
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