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Donald Fires FBI Director who's investigating Russian Election Hacking

stereotype much? you are saying they are too dumb to know how to work on the facebook?


NO it is because of vilification, we tend to shut the **** up.

No this is from demographics. The bulk of the republican voting base tends to be older (from vote records) and facebook users tend to be younger (from facebook stats). Simple demographics.
 
stereotype much? you are saying they are too dumb to know how to work on the facebook?


NO it is because of vilification, we tend to shut the **** up.

Dude, stop. Try for once to just actually read what was written and respond to what was written. Not this wild jumps in assumption and then attack mode. YOu are one of the two worst posters at this. Stop man, it's sad.

Just once, then we can go from there.
 
No this is from demographics. The bulk of the republican voting base tends to be older (from vote records) and facebook users tend to be younger (from facebook stats). Simple demographics.

Meta-analysis. Which can be very helpful.

Did this include what states were targeted the most heavily? How about the fact that the bots touted anyone BUT Hillary positively? I believe in early October it was identified that the largest targets were Michigan and Wisconsin. Which were also "hot states" where I wanna say Stein demanded a recount in? Helluva coincidence there. I mean... the 26 EC votes in just those two states were not enough to sway the election. But they were also the closest contests.

What about the other battleground states? It's been identified that those states saw the more Ruski-bot hits than non-swing. And it got WAY worse(hits were ramped up) the few days before November 6th.

One of the two things many SJW critics cite the most, is how quickly "snowflakes" are to act on something they see as injustice. But I think a case can be made that in this day and age all people are reacting too quickly; leaping before they look. It's not all that far of a jump to make a case that Trumpssia-gate appears to have tapped into this behavior; causing an unfavorable outcome for everyone not in the top 1%.

I'll agree that it's not likely, at least with the data we currently have, to say spybots alotted donnie a W. But I feel like it had more than just "a little" effect. I feel like the race would have been a lot closer had it not been for those surgically targeted ads.
 
Did this include what states were targeted the most heavily? How about the fact that the bots touted anyone BUT Hillary positively? I believe in early October it was identified that the largest targets were Michigan and Wisconsin. Which were also "hot states" where I wanna say Stein demanded a recount in? Helluva coincidence there. I mean... the 26 EC votes in just those two states were not enough to sway the election. But they were also the closest contests.

Sanders won both primaries in Michigan and Wisconsin. In fact, Sanders blew Clinton away in Wisconsin by over 10%.

That should have been the first red flag.
 
Dude, stop. Try for once to just actually read what was written and respond to what was written. Not this wild jumps in assumption and then attack mode. YOu are one of the two worst posters at this. Stop man, it's sad.

Just once, then we can go from there.

maybbe' but i have seen to not trust internet comments. for example reddit has been caught shown to fudge the numbers for pro right wing reddits. just saying man. sorry i attacked your viewpoint!
 
He’s also charged with “Conspiracy Against the USA.” That’s a prettynserious charge and would indicate he had some criminal Activity during the campaign and related to the election.

Not quite as bad as it sounds, and not related to the election:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat...the_united_states_is_bad_but_not_treason.html

"President Donald Trump’s former campaign manager Paul Manafort has been indicted on 12 counts involving money laundering and tax evasion. Manafort’s longtime business partner Rick Gates was also charged in the indictment, which was approved by a grand jury impaneled by special counsel Robert Mueller. Included among the charges is “conspiracy against the United States,” a dramatic and headline-grabbing accusation. Is that as serious as it sounds?

It’s certainly not good—but it also isn’t treason. The statute in question, 18 U.S.C. § 371, refers to two or more people who “conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof,” and actually act in furtherance of their conspiracy. The indictment alleges that Manafort and Gates “conspired to defraud the United States” by obstructing the work of the Justice and Treasury Departments. It adds that both men conspired “to commit offenses against the United States” and acted on their conspiracy.

The indictment then specifies precisely what these conspiracies and actions were. First, Manafort’s tax evasion—his habit, exhaustively detailed in the indictment, of hiding money overseas. Second, Manafort and Gates’ failure to register as “agents of a foreign principal” for their work with Ukraine and its former president, Viktor Yanukovych. Third, Manafort and Gates’ repeated lies to the U.S. government regarding their work for Yanukovych.

According to the indictment, both men furthered this conspiracy through a series of actions including false tax filings, illicit lobbying on Ukraine’s behalf, and the wiring of unreported income from offshore accounts to pay for housing expenses, landscaping, and luxury goods. Manafort also allegedly purchased property using hidden income from overseas accounts, at least once with Gates’ help, and lied to banks in order to secure loans."
 
Sanders won both primaries in Michigan and Wisconsin. In fact, Sanders blew Clinton away in Wisconsin by over 10%.

That should have been the first red flag.

I hadn't looked much at the effects of the primary results, more the finals.

But not entirely confident in what you're implying. Are you implying the most likely way Sanders could have won against Hillary is with Russian interference?
 
Sanders won both primaries in Michigan and Wisconsin. In fact, Sanders blew Clinton away in Wisconsin by over 10%.

That should have been the first red flag.

I wonder which is more likely... Russian interference putting Trump in office or DNC primary interference putting Sanders out and thus putting Trump in office. I know only one of those theories gets play.
 
I hadn't looked much at the effects of the primary results, more the finals.

But not entirely confident in what you're implying. Are you implying the most likely way Sanders could have won against Hillary is with Russian interference?

Oh boy.

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Glad to see they are looking into financial corruption now instead of the bogus/impossible to prove facebook ads. I guess they finally conceded it would be impossible to hurt Trump on that and are now opening Pandora's box of financial corruption in American politics.
 
Glad to see they are looking into financial corruption now instead of the bogus/impossible to prove facebook ads. I guess they finally conceded it would be impossible to hurt Trump on that and are now opening Pandora's box of financial corruption in American politics.

I hope he keeps this open for months and months and goes after everything that comes up. Take all the corrupt ones down.
 
This is the story that seems biggest to me. He pled guilty and provided details about things that occurred during the campaign. Among other things this means that there WAS something for Trump to cover up with the firing of Comey.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...25e712-bd7d-11e7-97d9-bdab5a0ab381_story.html

Trump campaign adviser admitted to lying about Russian contacts

By Rosalind S. Helderman and Carol D. Leonnig October 30 at 1:25 PM

George Papadopoulos, a former campaign adviser to President Trump, pleaded guilty earlier this month to lying to federal officials about contacts he had with people he believed had ties to the Russian government while he was affiliated with Trump’s campaign.

Papadopoulos, who was named by Trump in March 2016 as a foreign policy adviser to the campaign, was first charged under seal in July and ultimately pleaded guilty in October to lying to federal agents investigating Russian interference in the presidential election.

According to court papers released Monday, those contacts included an unnamed overseas professor whom Papadopoulos met in Italy in March, the same month he joined the campaign. In April 2016, the professor told him the Russian government had “dirt” on Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, including thousands of Clinton’s emails.

That conversation occurred two months before the Democratic National Committee revealed it had been hacked and believed Russians were behind the attack. It also came about a month after an email account belonging to Clinton’s campaign chairman, John Podesta, was targeted with a phishing attempt that may have led to the hack of his emails. Podesta’s emails were released by WikiLeaks in October.


Papadopoulos, who was arrested when he arrived at Dulles Airport on July 27, signed a plea agreement that indicates he is cooperating with special prosecutor Robert S. Mueller III, filings show. The charge against him indicates that Mueller is deeply examining any links between Trump aides and Russian officials as part of his probe into possible coordination between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin.

When President Trump met with The Washington Post editorial board he listed the members of his foreign policy team, calling Papadopoulos "an excellent guy." (The Washington Post)
In a statement, Papadopoulos’s attorneys Thomas Breen and Robert Stanley said that they would refrain from commenting on the case.

“We will have the opportunity to comment on George’s involvement when called upon by the Court at a later date,” they said. “We look forward to telling all of the details of George’s story at that time.”

According to court filings, Papadopoulos gave several Trump campaign officials updates about his efforts to broker meetings between the campaign and the Russian government, forwarding information to unnamed people described as “high-ranking campaign officials” and “campaign supervisor.”


Papadopoulos’s emails began days after he was named to Trump’s campaign team and continued for months. At one point, he offered to set up a meeting directly between Trump and Putin.

In response, one high-ranking campaign official emailed another official Papadopoulos’s offer, adding, “We need someone to communicate that [Trump] is not doing these trips. It should be someone low level in the campaign so as not to send any signal.”

The documents show Papadopoulos lied to federal agents about his interactions with the professor, saying their conversations predated his involvement with the campaign and indicating he believed the professor had low-level contacts in Russia. In fact, he knew that the professor had ties to senior levels of the Russian government, according to court papers.

In court filings, prosecutors quote from an email Papadopoulos sent to a campaign supervisor about his interactions with the professor in March. The email appears to match one described to The Washington Post in August in which Papadopoulos identified the professor with whom he met as Joseph Mifsud, the director of the London Academy of Diplomacy. The email was among more than 20,000 pages of documents the Trump campaign turned over to congressional committees after review by White House and defense lawyers.

Mifsud told The Post in an email in August that he had “absolutely no contact with the Russian government” and said he was an academic whose only ties to Russia are through academic links. He did not respond to a request for comment Monday.

In addition, Papadopoulos communicated with a Russian woman with ties to the government and a man in Moscow he believed was connected to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the filings show.

Trump identified Papadopoulos as one of his advisers in a March 2016 meeting with The Washington Post editorial board, during which the then-GOP candidate described Papadopoulos as “an energy consultant. Excellent guy.”

The court papers show that while he was serving as an adviser to the campaign, Papadopoulos met a Russian woman he believed was a niece of Russian President Vladimir Putin and with whom he communicated about setting up a meeting between Trump campaign officials and Russian officials.

He told agents that he met the woman a year before joining the Trump campaign, but, in fact, he met her only after he was named to the campaign and communicated with her for months while working with Trump aides, the documents show.

According to court filings, she told Papadopoulos she would like to help set up meetings for the Trump campaign with her associates to discuss U.S.-Russia ties under a future President Trump.

Papadopoulos emailed campaign officials about her offer. A supervisor, who is not named, wrote back, “Great work.”

The Post has reported that Papadopoulos repeatedly emailed top campaign aides to set up such meetings, and some emails show his offers were rebuffed.

However, court documents demonstrate that Papadopoulos had ongoing communications with his Russian contacts and campaign officials about the possibility of an “off the record” trip he might take to Moscow to help facilitate ties.

In one email exchange in August 2016, a campaign supervisor told Papadopoulos that he would “encourage” him and another unnamed foreign policy adviser to “make the trip, if it is feasible,” according to filings. The trip did not ultimately take place.

Prosecutors allege Papadopoulos also obstructed their inquiry by deleting a Facebook page that would have revealed his contacts with Russians not long after learning of the investigation.

At the time Trump identified Papadopoulos as an adviser, the hotel and real estate executive was rising in the field of Republican presidential candidates and his campaign was eager to show it had credible voices offering advice on foreign policy. On the same day, Trump also announced he was being advised by Carter Page, another energy consultant whose ties to Russia have been under scrutiny.

Papadopoulos initially drew attention because of his scant foreign policy background. He had earlier advised the presidential campaign of Ben Carson, but he had graduated from college less than a decade earlier and he appeared to have exaggerated his résumé.

Throughout the summer, Papadopoulos met with foreign officials and gave interviews to media in other countries, sometimes describing Trump’s views on Putin on Russia.

He told a group of researchers in Israel that Trump saw Putin as “a responsible actor and potential partner,” according to a column in the Jerusalem Post, while later he met with a British Foreign Office representative in London and a Greek official in New York, British and Greek embassy spokesmen have said. He also criticized U.S. sanctions on Russia in an interview with the Russian news outlet Interfax.

The Post has also reported that Sergei Millian, who was a key source of information contained in a dossier of information about Trump’s ties to Russia, told people around him that he was in contact with Papadopoulos during the campaign.

Tom Hamburger contributed to this report.
 
[MENTION=14]colton[/MENTION], right you are. The Papadopoulos story was overshadowed by Manafort and Gates, but it goes to the heart of the matter:

http://www.npr.org/2017/10/30/56078...irst-charges-in-muellers-russia-investigation

"The court documents got a little less focus early in the day than other indictments involving Trump's one-time campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, and a top aide, Rick Gates, who was Manafort's deputy and a business partner. Manafort and Gates pleaded not guilty in federal court Monday to all the charges announced earlier Monday, NPR's Barbara Sprunt reports. The two men were deemed a flight risk, and both told the court they have a difficult time "assessing their assets at this point."

But the Papadopoulos matter speaks to the heart of the mandate for Justice Department special counsel Robert Mueller — to examine potential connections between people in the Trump campaign and Russian influence-mongers.

What is now known is that Russia tried to infiltrate the Trump campaign — and did so successfully, at least at some level. Put in context of other reporting around the Russia story, it is a remarkable establishment.

The court documents also establish that Russia promised "thousands of emails" that would have "dirt" on Hillary Clinton to Papadopoulos in April 2016. A trove of hacked Democratic emails was released by WikiLeaks three months later — in the midst of the Democratic National Convention."
 
This guy seems like a really small fish - but it's probably just a first step. Mueller will work his way up the ladder until he finds someone who has dirt on the folks closest to Trump or Trump himself. He's working it kind of like a mob case - very appropriate.

Although with George Papadopoulos going to jail, I can't help but feel sorry for Webster - the poor kid must be heartbroken........lol, anyone??
 
Glad to see they are looking into financial corruption now instead of the bogus/impossible to prove facebook ads. I guess they finally conceded it would be impossible to hurt Trump on that and are now opening Pandora's box of financial corruption in American politics.

Don't count out those Facebook ads just yet. It's as [MENTION=145]Harambe[/MENTION] pointed out. Can it be shown that Russia received help from the Trump campaign in knowing where to target the Facebook propaganda?
 
[MENTION=14]colton[/MENTION], right you are. The Papadopoulos story was overshadowed by Manafort and Gates, but it goes to the heart of the matter:

http://www.npr.org/2017/10/30/56078...irst-charges-in-muellers-russia-investigation

"The court documents got a little less focus early in the day than other indictments involving Trump's one-time campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, and a top aide, Rick Gates, who was Manafort's deputy and a business partner. Manafort and Gates pleaded not guilty in federal court Monday to all the charges announced earlier Monday, NPR's Barbara Sprunt reports. The two men were deemed a flight risk, and both told the court they have a difficult time "assessing their assets at this point."

But the Papadopoulos matter speaks to the heart of the mandate for Justice Department special counsel Robert Mueller — to examine potential connections between people in the Trump campaign and Russian influence-mongers.

What is now known is that Russia tried to infiltrate the Trump campaign — and did so successfully, at least at some level. Put in context of other reporting around the Russia story, it is a remarkable establishment.

The court documents also establish that Russia promised "thousands of emails" that would have "dirt" on Hillary Clinton to Papadopoulos in April 2016. A trove of hacked Democratic emails was released by WikiLeaks three months later — in the midst of the Democratic National Convention."
Indeed. Although the White House press secretary today tried to downplay Papadopoulos' role in the Trump campaign, his pleadings included quotes from an unnamed campaign supervisor urging him to press forward with Russia.

I find it incredibly interesting that Papadopoulos was arrested way back in July and has been proactively assisting the investigation. That means he has been either wearing a wire or making monitored phone calls to other targets of Mueller's. There are people who have been communicating with Papadopoulos this year who are ****ting their pants today.

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Don't count out those Facebook ads just yet. It's as [MENTION=145]Harambe[/MENTION] pointed out. Can it be shown that Russia received help from the Trump campaign in knowing where to target the Facebook propaganda?

No, I'm ruling it out. It's stupid and inconsequential and takes focus away from actual issues.

The real issue should be to get money out of politics. Right now people only care about foreign money, but corporation money is just as bad.

Trump is just taking corruption to the next level because has so many ways to be corrupt with all his different businesses.
 
Don't count out those Facebook ads just yet. It's as [MENTION=145]Harambe[/MENTION] pointed out. Can it be shown that Russia received help from the Trump campaign in knowing where to target the Facebook propaganda?
I think this might be where Cambridge Analytica comes in. Apparently they were instrumental in Trumps digital marketing operation and were able to target Trump ads with surgical precison on facebook.
Again, team Trump is trying to distance themselves from the firm since news broke that the firm reached out to Assange to get their hands on Hillarys emails, but FEC filings show the Trump campaign paid Cambdridge Analytica $6 Million thru September 2016.

I think I remember a story recently about the firm leaving their voter information files online unsecured well into this year as well.

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No, I'm ruling it out. It's stupid and inconsequential and takes focus away from actual issues.

The real issue should be to get money out of politics. Right now people only care about foreign money, but corporation money is just as bad.

Trump is just taking corruption to the next level because has so many ways to be corrupt with all his different businesses.
I think it's unwise to underestimate the power of Facebook's ability to glean information about it's users and use that information for both political and non political targeted advertisement.

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This guy seems like a really small fish - but it's probably just a first step. Mueller will work his way up the ladder until he finds someone who has dirt on the folks closest to Trump or Trump himself. He's working it kind of like a mob case - very appropriate.

Although with George Papadopoulos going to jail, I can't help but feel sorry for Webster - the poor kid must be heartbroken........lol, anyone??

LOL. And you've got to feel sorry for this guy:

https://twitter.com/feeonlyplanner/status/925011145957761024
 
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