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I wouldn't say we suck, but we definitely are mediocre. My fear is the realization will keep creeping in but it will be too late to do anything by the time everybody is on the same page. I never liked the direction DL took this summer and all my fears are being realized right now. The problem is that I don't see an easy way out. There was a way, but we didn't take it and it's now too late. People won't like it, but I think we are screwed (doomed to the treadmill) for the foreseeable future. I can't see this team winning more games than we did last year for the whole duration of Gobert's contract.
 
stitches said:
I wouldn't say we suck, but we definitely are mediocre. My fear is the realization will keep creeping in but it will be too late to do anything by the time everybody is on the same page. I never liked the direction DL took this summer and all my fears are being realized right now. The problem is that I don't see an easy way out. There was a way, but we didn't take it and it's now too late. People won't like it, but I think we are screwed (doomed to the treadmill) for the foreseeable future. I can't see this team winning more games than we did last year for the whole duration of Gobert's contract.
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Agreed.
 
stitches said:
I wouldn't say we suck, but we definitely are mediocre. My fear is the realization will keep creeping in but it will be too late to do anything by the time everybody is on the same page. I never liked the direction DL took this summer and all my fears are being realized right now. The problem is that I don't see an easy way out. There was a way, but we didn't take it and it's now too late. People won't like it, but I think we are screwed (doomed to the treadmill) for the foreseeable future. I can't see this team winning more games than we did last year for the whole duration of Gobert's contract.
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Agreed.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I mean, you can be glass half full or glass half empty.

The Jazz shot terribly last night and had a lot of communication break downs on D, but still posted a great defensive game, kept TOs extremely low, got a good amount of offensive rebounds and got to the FT line a bunch.

The Jazz are starting to do the things they lacked to start the year that lost them a few games. If they take those habits and combine them with just mediocre shooting, they are back to playing high level basketball.

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TO's were low because Philly wasn't tenacious on D, maybe since they almost always had a double-digit lead. Same with offensive REB. We looked extremely rough on both offense and defense. Probably just tentative or tired more than anything but really discombobulated and lacking confidence/energy. I got a pretty big red flag out of this one. I don't trust that Rubio will ever be consistent enough of a shooter so does he switch his focus to being a distributor? But then he's distributing to whom? Favors had 2 REB last night and when he runs you can see his knee isn't right. Rodney will eventually get back if he doesn't get injured first but it looks like Burks is done. Mitchell's shooting last night concerns me as much as I hate to say it.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
A new thread was needed for a wake up call to all the kool-aid glassed homers.

The 8 seed ain't happening. Gobert isn't that great. Mitchell is an inefficient chucker. Rubio can't shoot. Ingles is just a role player. Hood is what he is which isn't anything remotely special. Favors is washed up. And Hayward was really ****ing good and we miss him. It's okay to admit it. He was that important to our success.

Oh well. At least I have the Eagles.
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Michael Jordan was also a player who played a role.


Pls insure your response, if any, is carefully measured.
We wouldn't want anyone here to get .... get ... Jingled.
 
Maybe after that Houston game we just hit a wall mentally and physically, ate too much pasta and never woke up.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
A new thread was needed for a wake up call to all the kool-aid glassed homers.

The 8 seed ain't happening. Gobert isn't that great. Mitchell is an inefficient chucker. Rubio can't shoot. Ingles is just a role player. Hood is what he is which isn't anything remotely special. Favors is washed up. And Hayward was really ****ing good and we miss him. It's okay to admit it. He was that important to our success.

Oh well. At least I have the Eagles.
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I'm loving you ****ers are sucking me so hard the sheets are coming up through my ***. When I called Burks' contract a huge mistake I was called a troll. When I said Hayward would get paid way more than the stupid $11 million you all wanted him at I was called a troll. When I said the current roster build was **** I was called a troll. When I said the Jazz will have to blow this up I was called a troll. When I questioned QS' offense I was called a troll.

Now everybody saying all of this. Oracle franklin out.
 
Again, way to early to overreact after 11 games in the season. Lets revisit this around All star break.
 
candrew said:
Yep, that was downright Corbin-like.

Jazz are not nearly as bad as they were last night; but they're not that good either.

I said it in August and I'll say it now - 35-38 wins is the absolute ceiling for this team - and that's sprinkled with some optimism. Jazz just don't have the offensive talent to make up for the loss of Hayward and Hill.

And as far as Rubio is concerned - love to say it but I told you so. Nice kid who can do nice things on the court now and again but he has no clue how to play winning basketball.

Favors looks like he's 37. No clue what happened to him.

Burks looks mentally shot.

Hood's a third option.

Ingles is a role player and cult hero - not a starter.

If Mitchell is the real thing (and I think he is) and The Jazz get lucky and pick up another legit scorer via the draft or trade then The Jazz might get lucky and have a quick one year re-set. But this team, this year, is going nowhere.
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You're overreacting, badly.
 
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