Gamethread: Indiana Pacers @ Utah Jazz. 7PM MST

[Jazz]

This is just brutal on Exum. His man is in the middle of the paint on Ingles drive.

Soon it will be over....

 

[Revolution 9]

Expectations can be a real.....

I was so high on this team before the season started. Still believe they can make a run, but damn these losses are tough to live with.

I don't fault Lindsey because I thought bringing this team back was the right idea. The chemistry was fantastic, and we were so fun the second half.
One of the best ends to a season in my 31 years of watching Jazz basketball.

Highlight is 20/20 so could woulda shoulda at this point, but a move for another scorer seems needed.

 

[Jingled]

Anyone else think our horrible offense is leading to a lot of our defensive struggles?

 

[Rubashov]

Anyone else think our horrible offense is leading to a lot of our defensive struggles?

yes and no, in part but we are missing too many good looks as well. As well our best knock down shooter is also doing a lot of our play making.

 

[fishonjazz]

I haven't checked into any stats, but I feel like our biggest problem is our defense. All this complaining about the offense. But I think when we play good defense it fuels our offense.

So whats wrong with the defense? Where is the Rudy impact?

If shots go in for the jazz it helps to limit transition offense off misses and allows the jazz defense to set up.

Good offense fuels the defense.

 

[fishonjazz]

Could have signed Jabari or Lavine this summer. They have offense.

I didnt hear any support for those moves. So y'all should stop complaining. You offered no solutions in the offseason.

You cant sign imaginary players.

I remember people want to trade for mirotic, sign gallinari in free agency, sign jabari in free agency, and sign bellijnca in free agency to name a few.

 

[fishonjazz]

I remember things were bleak at points last year, but we had Rudy's injury as an excuse and didn't have a taste of this team working. so this is dare say is bleaker than last year.

Agreed

 

[fishonjazz]

Snyder is a good coach, but even good coaches make mistakes. A starting lineup of Rubio, O'Neale, Ingles, Favors, and Gobert is a mistake. Hope he learns from it.

This

 

[phippsj]

I think it’s pretty clear Jazz can’t handle physical teams, or teams with big men who shoot.

 

[One Brow]

I was at the arena and my take aways.
Early turnovers suck. Rubio doesn’t protect the ball and it digs us into a whole. We never had any momentum.

I missed the first quarter and part of the second. I did see screens were the ball-handler was too far from the screener, and the supposed screenee was barely impeded, it at all. I saw Turner abuse Gobert outside and Crowder inside, but mostly stifled by Favors. I saw an active, hard-working Pacers defense and a Jazz defense that barely put up a fight.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Snyder is a good coach, but even good coaches make mistakes. A starting lineup of Rubio, O'Neale, Ingles, Favors, and Gobert is a mistake. Hope he learns from it.

The starting lineup finished down 3 in the first quarter (15-12). I rewatched what happened to them.

1. Gobert missed a ridiculously easy layup attempt on a feed from Favors on a backdoor cut. He makes that 9/10 times.
2. Every turnover was low reward type due to carelessness and they all led to points (7 points, besides the one Ingles had baseline against Turner, which led to an O'Neale steal and an open Ingles 3).

I'm not a fan of that lineup aesthetically, but I think it can work (and should work against the Pacers). The problem is you can't commit lazy turnovers and give the other team early confidence.

Either way, a 3 point hole the starting lineup put you in doesnt cause you to lose a game by 33.

 

[ghsartin]

I think this team should throw the ball inside most of the time. Both Gobert and Favors are raw offensive post players, of course, but even if their efficiency drop quite a bit with an increased usage rate, it would be better than having Rubio, Exum, O'Neale et caterva taking -- and missing --- a bunch of shots from either just inside the arc or just outside it. At least there would be more free throws and the opponents would be in foul trouble more often than now. Plus, I feel that both Favors and Gobert hide themselves sometimes, not taking, thus, any personal responsibility for the loss. Their attitude, seems to me, like: "Well... the guys don't pass me the ball that often, but when they do it, I do well... so I felt pretty good about myself with 12 points and 8 boards tonight."

 

[One Brow]

The starting lineup finished down 3 in the first quarter (15-12). I rewatched what happened to them.

1. Gobert missed a ridiculously easy layup attempt on a feed from Favors on a backdoor cut. He makes that 9/10 times.
2. Every turnover was low reward type due to carelessness and they all led to points (7 points, besides the one Ingles had baseline against Turner, which led to an O'Neale steal and an open Ingles 3).

I'm not a fan of that lineup aesthetically, but I think it can work (and should work against the Pacers). The problem is you can't commit lazy turnovers and give the other team early confidence.

Either way, a 3 point hole the starting lineup put you in doesnt cause you to lose a game by 33.

As I recall, they only fell behind 1 additional point to start the 3rd quarter, as well.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

We have the Nets Hawks and Heat coming up. If nothing changes I think it’s time to start rooting for losses and imagining Reddish, Zion, or Barrett with our roster along with a solid FA pickup (Dinwiddie anyone?). One bad year where nothing seems to be going right, don’t half *** it. Secure the franchises future for the next decade.

 

[homeytennis]

Everyone was - in the box score. Everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Stoked]

@Stoked What the heck did you buy? Whatever it was didn’t have enough mojo to turn a turd into anything but a turd.

Ended up not even going. Long story.

Looked online and didn’t find a city jersey. So I got a statement Mitchell jersey.

 

[David Stern]

I think it’s pretty clear Jazz can’t handle physical teams, or teams with big men who shoot.

Luckily only like 99% of the NBA has at least one big man that can shoot at an elite level. We're gonna be fine.

 

[JimLes]

I think last time I was this disappointed by a season after 20 games was 2004/05.

 

[MVP]

I think last time I was this disappointed by a season after 20 games was 2004/05.

Hey at least we started 5-0 and crushed Kobe and Lakers in the first game
Look at that beauty of a box score... AK 16pts, 8blks, Boozer 27pts 11reb, Harpring 23pts,7reb off the bench... man that season start was like a dream until Ginobli fell into AK's knee and caused him to miss 20 games
https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200411030UTA.html

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Hey at least we started 5-0 and crushed Kobe and Lakers in the first game
Look at that beauty of a box score... AK 16pts, 8blks, Boozer 27pts 11reb, Harpring 23pts,7reb off the bench... man that season start was like a dream until Ginobli fell into AK's knee and caused him to miss 20 games
https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200411030UTA.html

7 three point attempts lmfao