2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

[Handlogten's Heros]

I think you're on the right path with that. They are eyeing that Milwaukee payroll, and will take either Middleton or Brogdon, whichever one the Bucks choose not to pay.

They can pay them both no problem doe... so then what?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Because of the Ricky - cap space dance - we will have to do to have space I think we will seriously investigate trade opportunities and if something decent comes up I could see us pulling the trigger. May not be a home run like signing Harris outright in FA but will provide certainty and allow us to do other things in FA.

 

[fishonjazz]

You feel better about yourself? With your dumbass comment? Never said that was the plan, smart guy - I was just stating what I’ve witnessed on a personal level.

Are you ok? Just saying that the reason we are talking about guys like Griffin are because they are guys that might be available. Part of the reason they would be available is their injury history. The guys you like aren't available.

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[LoPo]

I think you're on the right path with that. They are eyeing that Milwaukee payroll, and will take either Middleton or Brogdon, whichever one the Bucks choose not to pay.

The Bucks were able to dump Dellie and Henson on the Cavs. They can easily keep both Middleton and Brogdon. The NBA is a place now where you don't let anybody go especially if they fit. Later on, you could trade them if you want. The Bucks let Jabari go so they could keep the guys like Brogdon and Middleton.

Brogdon and Middleton only leave if they want to leave. Unlikely as that is, it's even more unlikely that they pick Utah.

 

[LoPo]

Windhorst said it on tv... nikos name was brought up with regard to jimmy butler too... obviously a pretty big upgrade.

I could see them doing Hill, Niko and a pick for OP jr. if wiz actually move him. Wiz could route Niko to a third team for seconds or salary relief.... not anything that is likely but it makes sense since Randle Niko AD can’t all share the floor and they are super shallow on the wing.

I mean almost anybody can be traded. However, the Butler situation doesn't apply at all anymore. That happened in the first couple weeks of the season when Niko was healthy. Now, he's not 100% and he could leave in a few months.

If I was NOLA, I would be looking to trade Randle. He isn't going to pick up that player option for next year and his numbers have been amazing this season. Trade high and keep the guy who spreads the floor for AD.

 

[The mailman]

Thanks for the info and what you're saying makes complete sense.

Any guys more in our range we should be looking at? Anybody you see who has self control and the drive not to partake in the shenanigans?

Good question - I think about that pretty much every time I interact with one of them. I’m in LA, so most of the players I’ve met play for the Lakers/Clippers obviously, and there’s really only a couple from those two teams that come to mind. Kuzma, Lou Williams, Tobias Harris.

To be honest, it’s the foreign players that have impressed me the most with their focus and worker-like mentality- maybe it’s because they are just so appreciative of being in the NBA. He’s obviously not in our range - but I’m telling you - Porzingis is full on Utah Jazz. A class act. A healthy Porzingis would be a dream, and I have little doubt that we would take us over the top. Just think about what Quin could do with him. Wow.

Rudy
Porzingis
Ingles
DM
Rubio (or any other PG for that matter)

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I mean almost anybody can be traded. However, the Butler situation doesn't apply at all anymore. That happened in the first couple weeks of the season when Niko was healthy. Now, he's not 100% and he could leave in a few months.

If I was NOLA, I would be looking to trade Randle. He isn't going to pick up that player option for next year and his numbers have been amazing this season. Trade high and keep the guy who spreads the floor for AD.

Huh... I'm just saying he's not untouchable... his name has come up a couple times this season in different scenarios... given the age and production of Randle I'm guessing they want to retain him whether he picks up the option or not. They want something they can build around AD... both guys could leave... NO is playing well with Randle AD arrangement right now... Niko might be more expendable and he still has some value.

 

[Jazz]

I do think pelicans fit is a good one for dante. Though the combination between exum and gobert or favors is already really good and could become a great combination. Thats the best combination the jazz have atm. Dante to the bigs

 

[framer]

Honestly, I wouldn't trade either Crowder or Favors for Mirotic. He's kinda overrated on this board.

 

[zyzz]

lol

 

[Sandman822]

lol

Mavs are an odd franchise sometimes, don't understand why they're alienating their 2nd year PG lol.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Honestly, I wouldn't trade either Crowder or Favors for Mirotic. He's kinda overrated on this board.

Stretch bigs just have such a huge offensive impact... just look at the difference between the lineup data with Favs and the starters versus Jae and the starters.

In a vacuum Favs is the best player of those three... just doesn’t fit with our other best players nearly as well.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Mavs are an odd franchise sometimes, don't understand why they're alienating their 2nd year PG lol.

Unless he punched someone in practice this is stupid. He’s gotten better and pgs are slow to develop... they’ve murdered his trade value.

 

[latin jazz]

George Hill should be available this summer. Unfortunately, that would be the 2019 George Hill.

Yup, he is done. We got luck he didn't sign an extension. We dodged a bullet there

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

Just heard locke breakdown Tobias Harris and his potential fit here... it was good and now I want to wait until FA and test if the Clips will give him a max, make him wait, or if we have a shot here. He'd be phenomenal here and if the Clips slide I can see him giving us strong consideration.

Been watching the clips close, I could see them falling out of the playoffs again, then I can’t see the clips wanting him for a max.

You know Rozier has a worse TS% than either Rubio, DM, or Exum (our three worst in the rotation this year), don't you? He does rebound well and doesn't turn the ball over much. But he's having a terrible shooting year and also has a worse AST% than either of those three.

Edit: a little late on the draw again... Thanks Piso

Rozier is a much better player starting then coming off the bench.

I agree about the shooting. I dont think Rozier is the right choice here. But one big difference between the two that makes Rozier a slightly better fit here is he is a good defender, Rubio is not.

Rubio plays good defense, your stats are failing you once again.

I didn't watch the segment but this appeared on my feed:

Not going to happen now that we are rumored to want him. And that’s a good thing.

 

[Shad]

No to Porter. Yes to Grffin

 

[Jingled]

The Jazz aren't going to make a move for Otto Porter or anyone else with a big contract after this season. They think they can sign Khris Middleton or someone like it and are going to wait to do so.

Once they strike out however and don't sign anyone and end up using the cap space to bring back Favors & Rubio, Dennis Lindsey should borderline be fired after it all goes down.

I don't necessarily agree with the part about Lindsey being fired but I think you hit the nail on the head with the rest of your post. I think the Jazz really believe they have a chance to land someone in the Middleton/Harris tier and therefore I don't see them making any major moves at the trade deadline because they want to preserve their cap space for free agency. I also think you're right that the Jazz will likely strike out on acquiring one of their primary targets. My biggest fear is picking up Favors option, re-signing Rubio and essentially bringing this exact same team back again next season and I think there's a pretty good chance that's exactly what ends up happening.

 

[framer]

Stretch bigs just have such a huge offensive impact... just look at the difference between the lineup data with Favs and the starters versus Jae and the starters.

In a vacuum Favs is the best player of those three... just doesn’t fit with our other best players nearly as well.

I mean he is playing opposite the Brow, and is really mediocre. He can shoot, sometimes, and offers almost nothing when his shot isn't hitting. If we are going with the streaky shooter, get the streaky shooter that plays defense.

To be honest, Julius Randle is who we all know him to be and he has looked FANTASTIC next to Davis. Mortgaging anything for Mitotic would be a mistake.

 

[framer]

I don't necessarily agree with the part about Lindsey being fired but I think you hit the nail on the head with the rest of your post. I think the Jazz really believe they have a chance to land someone in the Middleton/Harris tier and therefore I don't see them making any major moves at the trade deadline because they want to preserve their cap space for free agency. I also think you're right that the Jazz will likely strike out on acquiring one of their primary targets. My biggest fear is picking up Favors option, re-signing Rubio and essentially bringing this exact same team back again next season and I think there's a pretty good chance that's exactly what ends up happening.

I think if a deal is there, the Jazz will do it, especially if it can get done without greatly upsetting the cart. There is a large difference between the deals that are rumored to be available and the deals that actually ARE available.

 

[framer]

Also, Favors would absolutely feast if he were featured on an Eastern conference team.