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I don't buy that Conley doesn't want to go to Utah. I don't think that it's a coincidence that this "news" broke right after a report that said Utah is the frontrunner but that neither Utah or Detroit have met Memphis price.

Memphis is trying to push the action and get the offer they want. Won't work if DL knows he has the best offer.
 
I’m fine with not getting Conley. Don’t want to overpay. If we can ship out Rubio, a first and minor expiring contracts, and still get something decent, go for it. Would rather keep Favors and Exum.

The only guy I’d be willing to overpay for is Holiday. And looks like he’s not going anywhere.
 
sojodave said:
Face it, nothing is going to happen at the trade deadline, nothing is going to happen next summer. We will have the same team next year and we will have the same struggles.
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This is where I'm at as well. Would love nothing more than to be proven wrong.
 
Any deal that gets you off Exum's contract and doesn't lose you assets is a win. The love of him and how he earned his contract are unlike anything I have ever seen. The only thing that makes sense to me is that the FO and so many of you here refuse to see facts because of blind hope and an adherence to the sunk-cost fallacy.

I'm not saying there's nothing there with Exum, but his contract is obviously the worst on the team. That is because he just isn't very good, can't stay healthy, and also because his deal moved the Jazz out of having a max slot.

It may be wishful thinking to go into free agency hoping to sign a deserving max player, but it's no more wishful than truly believing a guy that has played ~1/3 of games, shoots ~30% from three, has never had a positive +/- for a season or positive VORP, and plays like he has a backpack on at all times is going to become even a starter, let alone a star.

Yeah, there's some reason to have hope for his potential. You sell that to teams that have the cap space, no conceivable free agent draw, and a timeline to accommodate. The Jazz aren't that team. We need real players now.
 
SCS said:
I don't buy that Conley doesn't want to go to Utah. I don't think that it's a coincidence that this "news" broke right after a report that said Utah is the frontrunner but that neither Utah or Detroit have met Memphis price.

Memphis is trying to push the action and get the offer they want. Won't work if DL knows he has the best offer.
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The news is entirely based off of one reporter (Windhorst) who is wrong more often than he's right and has made a living as a muckraker/Lebron jockrider. His entire career only exists because of his proximity to Lebron.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Any deal that gets you off Exum's contract and doesn't lose you assets is a win. The love of him and how he earned his contract are unlike anything I have ever seen. The only thing that makes sense to me is that the FO and so many of you here refuse to see facts because of blind hope and an adherence to the sunk-cost fallacy.

I'm not saying there's nothing there with Exum, but his contract is obviously the worst on the team. That is because he just isn't very good, can't stay healthy, and also because his deal moved the Jazz out of having a max slot.

It may be wishful thinking to go into free agency hoping to sign a deserving max player, but it's no more wishful than truly believing a guy that has played ~1/3 of games, shoots ~30% from three, has never had a positive +/- for a season or positive VORP, and plays like he has a backpack on at all times.

Yeah, there's some reason to have hope for his potential. You sell that to teams that have the cap space, no conceivable free agent draw, and a timeline to accommodate. The Jazz aren't that team. We need real players now.
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This.
 
It’s hilarious to me how often people talk about Allen being so old yet exum and other players being talked about (like Winslow) are all said to be so young when they’re all barely 23 y/o like allen. Korver is about to be 38 y/o. If Conley is obtained, i’d rather give up exum and have allen as a guard who can shoot off the bench (and he can play some PG). Don and Neto are adequate backups at PG in place of X. If Allen goes, the only guard shooter off the bench is old-a$$ Kyle. That’s not acceptable to me.
 
I am still not entirely sold on Conley. I'm glad Lindsey is holding firm, but holding out because of Exum is completely backwards. The only thing that makes taking Conley palatable is moving off of Exum's totally-irrational $11 million a year.
 
Avery said:
The news is entirely based off of one reporter (Windhorst) who is wrong more often than he's right and has made a living as a muckraker/Lebron jockrider. His entire career only exists because of his proximity to Lebron.
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Wrong, Windy is one of the best. What are you smoking?
 
"When Chekhov saw the long winter, he saw a winter bleak and dark and bereft of hope. Yet we know that winter is just another step in the cycle of life. But standing here among the people of Punxsutawney and basking in the warmth of their hearths and hearts, I couldn't imagine a better fate than a long and lustrous winter." Signed Phil Connors.

Following the Jazz is like Groundhog Day. Same story all the time.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Any deal that gets you off Exum's contract and doesn't lose you assets is a win. The love of him and how he earned his contract are unlike anything I have ever seen. The only thing that makes sense to me is that the FO and so many of you here refuse to see facts because of blind hope and an adherence to the sunk-cost fallacy.

I'm not saying there's nothing there with Exum, but his contract is obviously the worst on the team. That is because he just isn't very good, can't stay healthy, and also because his deal moved the Jazz out of having a max slot.

It may be wishful thinking to go into free agency hoping to sign a deserving max player, but it's no more wishful than truly believing a guy that has played ~1/3 of games, shoots ~30% from three, has never had a positive +/- for a season or positive VORP, and plays like he has a backpack on at all times is going to become even a starter, let alone a star.

Yeah, there's some reason to have hope for his potential. You sell that to teams that have the cap space, no conceivable free agent draw, and a timeline to accommodate. The Jazz aren't that team. We need real players now.
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I was neutral on his contract... surprised he’s the sticking point. There will always be a “what if” with him... but we are 5 damn years down the road now... he’s useful... could we find something for 10m that is as useful? Is Favs more useful? If he sustains another small injury does he have any trade value?

If he’s the sticking point that’s silly imo. We are placing too much value in “our guy”
 
Since the truth about Exum is finally being told I am just going lay this out there as well.

The reason why you guys dont like Jabari is because he is Mormon.

There I said it. The truth is out there now.

Y'all know he is a baller. You just dont want mormon baller. You have hated every mormon baller ever.

P.S. I am not mormon or religious.
 
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