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Healthiest countries in the world.... USA ranks 35th

The index grades nations based on variables including life expectancy while imposing penalties on risks such as tobacco use and obesity. It also takes into consideration environmental factors including access to clean water and sanitation.


Nothing about eye Care. Good luck to your child though but that has nothing to do with our country being unhealthy.
 
JazzyFresh said:
The index grades nations based on variables including life expectancy while imposing penalties on risks such as tobacco use and obesity. It also takes into consideration environmental factors including access to clean water and sanitation.


Nothing about eye Care. Good luck to your child though but that has nothing to do with our country being unhealthy.
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Just ignore the fact that he has to pay thousands of dollars of upfront costs. Which of course you wouldn’t give a crap about because nothing is wrong so as long as we have the POSUS in office. Yes POSUS, not a typo.
 
It's pretty funny how we have posters here blaming tobacco and alcohol consumption for America's lower life expectancy when most of those countries listed above have higher tobacco and alcohol consumption rates than the United States.

It's almost like some posters have no idea what the hell they're talking about!
 
JazzyFresh said:
The index grades nations based on variables including life expectancy while imposing penalties on risks such as tobacco use and obesity. It also takes into consideration environmental factors including access to clean water and sanitation.


Nothing about eye Care. Good luck to your child though but that has nothing to do with our country being unhealthy.
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I was simply responding to your post that was talking about healthcare.

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Jazzta said:
Just ignore the fact that he has to pay thousands of dollars of upfront costs. Which of course you wouldn’t give a crap about because nothing is wrong so as long as we have the POSUS in office. Yes POSUS, not a typo.
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You're paying for it through taxes if not lol. Lol amazing how people don't understand that nothing in life is free. 52 trillion plus grows on trees.

Or here can you explaim how Bernie plans to pay for his medical for all plan? He don't even know yet but you still love him. He had said taxing you and I will pay for it though
 
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For those of you who think America needs to do more to address obesity, you might be interested in Germany's health care model!

They provide universal health care to their population at about 12 percent of their GDP compared to our 19 percent GDP. Their life expectancy is higher than ours as well. So Germany gets universal care, better outcomes, and lower prices. They also still use health insurance.

However, what they do things differently because they view health care as a right, not a privilege.
  • Their health insurance companies are nonprofit and not connected to your employer. Why should health insurance be a for profit industry? Can anyone actually explain why? Why have we decided as a society that insurance should be tied to our place of employment?
  • Their health insurance companies provide different tiers of service. The cheaper plans provide basic care. The more expensive plans provide for gym memberships and spa treatments (obesity somewhat addressed). But the important thing is, you get to choose!
  • Their drug market is heavily regulated. You won't see insulin prices jacked up 1,000,000 percent overnight because stockholders want to make a lot of money, as you see here in the United States. Again, because they view health care as a right, not a privilege or an industry to exploit consumers.
So there you have it. A free market based health care model that doesn't require government to actually run healthcare. it provides better outcomes, lower costs, and more freedom!
 
For the first time ever I agree with Thriller. I may scoff at people like Warren's and Bernie's plan but I also think our current situation is garbage. Why replace garbage with garbage though?
 
One Brow said:
Replacing the inefficiencies of a multi-payer system with high premiums, and using those premiums to create a more efficient single-payer system.
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"There is no debate that federal spending on health care would rise dramatically under Medicare for All. Based on two independent estimates, the program would add about $32 trillion to the federal budget over the next 10 years."
https://www.politifact.com/article/2019/sep/13/cost-medicare-all-sticker-shock-or-bill-relief/


So 3+ trillion annually extra comes from that? When we already spend around 3.6?

I don't buy it. We will be taxed heavily. I don't ask for much but where are all my so called fellow conservatives(fiscal) on this?
 
JazzyFresh said:
"There is no debate that federal spending on health care would rise dramatically under Medicare for All. Based on two independent estimates, the program would add about $32 trillion to the federal budget over the next 10 years."
https://www.politifact.com/article/2019/sep/13/cost-medicare-all-sticker-shock-or-bill-relief/


So 3+ trillion annually extra comes from that? When we already spend around 3.6?

I don't buy it. We will be taxed heavily. I don't ask for much but where are all my so called fellow conservatives(fiscal) on this?
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https://www.cms.gov/Research-Statis...ports/NationalHealthExpendData/NHE-Fact-Sheet

We spend about 3.6T anuually as a combination of private and public health insurance. Getting all that care from a 3.2T budget means we spend 400B less as a country.

Taxes replace current insurance premiums and expenditures.
 
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