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On the radar: 2012 Draft Class

The Thriller said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there more of a sense that Gilchrist is a 3? while Leonard was a 4 trying to play 3 (and developing into one?)?

Right now folks don't know whether they're going to get The Matrix or Hakim Warick with Leonard. While it's more likely that Gilchrist is already more of a true wing, right?
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Definitely. Gilchrist plays 4 positions at an elite (high school) level. For Team USA he guarded the other team's best player (which happened to be their PF), but ran the point on the offensive end. He lacks nothing as a SF in the NBA other than getting more used to shooting from the perimeter ... although he did shoot 40+% last year.

4 positions in high school.
I'd say 3 positions, at an elite level, in college (2 - 4).
Pure 3 in the league.
 
Leonard is a bit of a tweener. His best attribute is rebounding but clearly can't play PF, so was never crazy about the Jazz drafting him.
 
Doesn't Gilchrist shoot the ball much better than Leonard?

Also, it seems like Gilchrist would be one of the youngest players in the draft if he entered this next year. I think that he has the potential to still grow a little bit. I like what I see from Gilchrist a lot. I just have to wonder what the line up would be like if the Jazz were able to draft Gilchrist and like Kobongo or Teague. Would they start Hayward and Burks for a few years or would Gilchrist take over at the SF position and would Hayward start or would Burks? We will might never be able to find out. Please end this lockout very soon. I am getting the basketball itch more and more everyday.
 
Notice the handles, the finishing through contact, and remember he's a 20 and 10 guy that also manages 5 blocks and assists .. while also being called the best defender in the class.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opcwHWDAWt4
 
Here's a link to highlights of three of those mentioned here. Small / Medium / and Large.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgJog1u1Yqg&NR=1&feature=fvwp
 
orangello said:
Doesn't Gilchrist shoot the ball much better than Leonard?

Also, it seems like Gilchrist would be one of the youngest players in the draft if he entered this next year. I think that he has the potential to still grow a little bit. I like what I see from Gilchrist a lot. I just have to wonder what the line up would be like if the Jazz were able to draft Gilchrist and like Kobongo or Teague. Would they start Hayward and Burks for a few years or would Gilchrist take over at the SF position and would Hayward start or would Burks? We will might never be able to find out. Please end this lockout very soon. I am getting the basketball itch more and more everyday.
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Yes, Gillie shoots better than Leonard. Leonard is really just not a very good comparison, imo. As to your other questions .. they're good questions. :)
 
Gilchrist's birthday is 9/26/93 so this month he turns 18. Yea, I would say that he is very young. Andre Drummond on the other hand is already 18. Not much older but his birthday is 8/10/93. Without going crazy looking up all kinds of profiles I would guess that Gilchrist would be the youngest member of this draft class if he enters.
 
If it's a big that isn't a homerun, the Jazz shouldn't be hungry for one. I hear murmurings that Drummond has an apathetic streak. If true, that's an automatic DQ for me.
 
NUMBERICA said:
If it's a big that isn't a homerun, the Jazz shouldn't be hungry for one. I hear murmurings that Drummond has an apathetic streak. If true, that's an automatic DQ for me.
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Frustratingly accurate. Everyone in the gym knows he could dominate, but he doesn't make the effort. His games are like nothing, nothing, 3 highlight dunks, nothing. He has more upside than Howard, imo, but we'll never see it materialize, again, imo. I agree, don't need a big, especially in this class. Pick up a 3, for sure. Then the BPA PG (Teague/Kabongo) or 2G (Rivers/Beal).
 
cowhide said:
If all these guys come out this will be the best draft in years. At this moment, I like Gilchrist the most. He fills a need and he seems to like to play defense. I also think he can develop his offensive game and become a good scorer. Ideally, the Jazz need a PG of the future but you still have to take the best player available. I just don't see how the Jazz are going to have two picks unless the season is canceled but it doesn't look like that will happen.
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Jazz are going to sneak into the playoffs as the 8th seed and GS will wind up with a top #7 pick. So in the deepest draft in years, the Jazz will have ZERO picks.
 
I know there is debate as to how much intelligence plays in basketball (or let's say linguistic adroitness), but I can't remember hearing an NBA All-Star give an interview that sounded as disjointed as this interview with Gilchrist. Does anyone else see anything that I'm seeing here? It sounds as if he has no idea about where he is or what he is even thinking about the game. "I have no role!" etc. Am I high? Should ability to articulate a coherent thought be a criterium at all? I know he's young and has had tremendous tribulations in his life, so no disrespect intended. It almost seems as if he has a speech/cognitive pathology problem.
[video]https://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Michael-Gilchrist-5707/
[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBrWRPGnSNo"[/MEDIA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBrWRPGnSNo[/URL]
[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY90QVWMBOc"[/MEDIA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY90QVWMBOc[/URL]
 
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The Jazz would have to hop a few teams to make the playoffs.

Lakers
Mavs
Thunder
Grizzlies
Spurs
Nuggets
Blazers
Rockets/Suns/Jazz/Hornets

Golden State has picked 7, 6, 7 in the last three drafts, so there is a pretty good chance they'll keep their pick. The Warrior's pick ought to be in th 6 - 10 range and the Jazz's pick ought to be in the 10 - 13 range.
 
JJAS said:
I know there is debate as to how much intelligence plays in basketball (or let's say linguistic adroitness), but I can't remember hearing an NBA All-Star give an interview that sounded as disjointed as this interview with Gilchrist. Does anyone else see anything that I'm seeing here? It sounds as if he has no idea about where he is or what he is even thinking about the game. "I have no role!" etc. Am I high? Should ability to articulate a coherent thought be a criterium at all? I no he's young and has had tremendous tribulations in his life, so no disrespect intended. It almost seems as if he has a speech/cognitive pathology problem.
[video]https://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Michael-Gilchrist-5707/
[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBrWRPGnSNo"[/MEDIA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBrWRPGnSNo[/URL]
[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY90QVWMBOc"[/MEDIA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY90QVWMBOc[/URL]
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The kid is young so I give him a pass on the interview and his lack of knowledge. All I have heard about the kid is he is good, works hard, stays out of trouble and is a good teammate. A few examples from the past, Dr.J when he was young sucked at interviews, Moses Malone and Bill Walton to name a few. What matters is does the kid have talent, desire and the it factor. I think he has all three but time will only tell.
 
I will wait until these kids play some College ball to pass any kind of judgment on them. NBA teams tried scouting and drafting HS players and usually failed miserably.

......................but QUINCY MILLER ftw as far as potential goes.
 
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