DL and Quin Snyder Rift

[Handlogten's Heros]

No idea if this guy is credible. I think there has been something brewing here for a while and have my reasons why. If I have to pick I'll keep Quin hands down.

 

[NAOS]

Who is Clevis Murray?

 

[NAOS]

Who is Clevis Murray?

Contributor to The Athletic... based in Boston?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Who is Clevis Murray?

No idea really. Seems like a made up name tbh.

I do think you have the following tea leaves for disagreements for DL and Quin (disagreements are normal so doesn't indicate a rift):

- Dante Exum... all of it.
- The weird benching non-benching of Mike Conley day... Quin took the brunt and answered the questions DL said no comment.
- Quin not trusting many or any of the young g league guys over the last few years. Doesn't think they are good enough but DL keeps them around.

Anything else?

 

[NAOS]

No idea really. Seems like a made up name tbh.

I do think you have the following tea leaves for disagreements for DL and Quin (disagreements are normal so doesn't indicate a rift):

- Dante Exum... all of it.
- The weird benching non-benching of Mike Conley day... Quin took the brunt and answered the questions DL said no comment.
- Quin not trusting many or any of the young g league guys over the last few years. Doesn't think they are good enough but DL keeps them around.

Anything else?

-Quin might see the defensive inflexibility of the roster and be grating about it.

 

[enchilada_style]

Finally something juicy.


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[NUMBERICA]

I really, really hope DL “moves on.” I’ll start a gofundme to hire Bailey’s for him.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I really, really hope DL “moves on.” I’ll start a gofundme to hire Bailey’s for him.

He's kind of a genius... does things a year or two too late... overpays to do so... everyone praises him. Puts JZ and Quin in front of media instead of answering questions. Hits on a couple of picks and parlays it into years of "what an amazing GM". Will move on before getting fired and likely get another long contract with a team like Houston or Dallas. Gets all the credit and no blame.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

No idea really. Seems like a made up name tbh.

I do think you have the following tea leaves for disagreements for DL and Quin (disagreements are normal so doesn't indicate a rift):

- Dante Exum... all of it.
- The weird benching non-benching of Mike Conley day... Quin took the brunt and answered the questions DL said no comment.
- Quin not trusting many or any of the young g league guys over the last few years. Doesn't think they are good enough but DL keeps them around.

Anything else?

The Jazz screwed up with Jeff Green and Ed Davis. Maybe it was late in free agency and the Jazz didn't have better options.
Mudiay and Shaq Harrison were also last-minute decisions. As 3rd point guards, maybe you don't expect much from either.
Guys like Torrey Craig and GR3 could have been pretty easy pick-ups this season. Not sure what Matt Thomas gets you.

 

[NUMBERICA]

He's kind of a genius... does things a year or two too late... overpays to do so... everyone praises him. Puts JZ and Quin in front of media instead of answering questions. Hits on a couple of picks and parlays it into years of "what an amazing GM". Will move on before getting fired and likely get another long contract with a team like Houston or Dallas. Gets all the credit and no blame.

But he might start looking at small ball. Now. Maybe.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

-Quin might see the defensive inflexibility of the roster and be grating about it.

I would guess that Quin says "WTF I have no one to turn to" and DL says "uhhhh Miye Oni is the best perimeter defender on the team and I've been saying so for over a year".

Quin "Torrey Craig was available"... DL "uhhhh I got you Matt Thomas bruh... best shooter in the world".

 

[NUMBERICA]

DL can’t simultaneously get heaped with credit for building this supposedly great team when it also totally collapsed in the second round and now cannot be sustained because of his consistently ghastly work on the margins.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

DL can’t simultaneously get heaped with credit for building this supposedly great team when it also totally collapsed in the second round and now cannot be sustained because of his consistently ghastly work on the margins.

DL's only legitimate gripes against Quin would be not playing Oni or Brantley some minutes to see what they have there... or not giving Shaq a legitimate chance to play the wing and add the help defender we need. He likely didn't want to bring someone in to play over them if he believes in them... of course if that is your MO why do that to your first round pick in a big way.

DL not finding two real nba players to fill in the roster in place of Thomas and Morgan is pretty incredible. Adding Ersan who is a real nba player is whatevs... but looking at the roster how exactly did you think he'd get used and wasn't there obvious bigger needs?

 

[LogGrad98]

No idea really. Seems like a made up name tbh.

I do think you have the following tea leaves for disagreements for DL and Quin (disagreements are normal so doesn't indicate a rift):

- Dante Exum... all of it.
- The weird benching non-benching of Mike Conley day... Quin took the brunt and answered the questions DL said no comment.
- Quin not trusting many or any of the young g league guys over the last few years. Doesn't think they are good enough but DL keeps them around.

Anything else?

Technically every name is a made up name.

 

[LogGrad98]

DL's only legitimate gripes against Quin would be not playing Oni or Brantley some minutes to see what they have there... or not giving Shaq a legitimate chance to play the wing and add the help defender we need. He likely didn't want to bring someone in to play over them if he believes in them... of course if that is your MO why do that to your first round pick in a big way.

DL not finding two real nba players to fill in the roster in place of Thomas and Morgan is pretty incredible. Adding Ersan who is a real nba player is whatevs... but looking at the roster how exactly did you think he'd get used and wasn't there obvious bigger needs?

In 3 entire games of getting pounded by small-ball lineups Quinn should have at least tried Ersan as a small-ball 5 for few minutes. But he did nothing. No different looks at all. Quin needs to go too imo.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The Udoka and Matt Thomas moves just smell like moves that smack of "we trust our spreadsheets more than our eyes". Like they just have no basketball feel or foresight at all.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

In 3 entire games of getting pounded by small-ball lineups Quinn should have at least tried Ersan as a small-ball 5 for few minutes. But he did nothing. No different looks at all. Quin needs to go too imo.

For Favs I agree but he could have looked at the wing lineups and though Ersan would just get cooked too... not sure they could have been worse but maybe.

 

[LogGrad98]

But he might start looking at small ball. Now? Maybe?? Guess not.

Ftfy

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Technically every name is a made up name.

Mind blown.

 

[LogGrad98]

For Favs I agree but he could have looked at the wing lineups and though Ersan would just get cooked too... not sure they could have been worse but maybe.

Yeah but when you blow multiple double digit leads and your team looks completely clueless in the process you should at least for say 5 minutes of over 70 minutes of inept ****** gameplay say "**** it, Ersan get out there".