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The *OFFICIAL* Russia Is About To Invade Ukraine Thread

The ultimate question of globalism is: Do you trust your friends and neighbors with power more or less than you trust a distant bureaucrat you will never meet and is more of an idea to you than an actual person you can hold responsible? Idealists love globalism because real people can never measure up to an ideal and so the distant ideal wins. Those who yearn for responsibility are less likely to be globalists because they want some measure of control and globalism is antithetical to that desire.
As a misanthrope, I much prefer the whims of the distant bureaucrat, who has no reason to screw me over in particular, than the people who know me personally. As a person intent on taking responsibility, I much prefer globalism because the even keel allows my exceptionalism to shine better.

Sure, these attitudes disagree with your understanding of how people should feel about globalism, but that's not really a surprise.
 
It's weird how those who want responsibility and (whatever the opposite of globalism is) refuse to be responsible. Take for example the Trump presidency.
  • Trump touted America First, when all it meant was America Last and his family corrupt business dealings first. Even if it meant blackmailing Ukraine's president to promote his personal agenda.
  • Trump and his party refuse to be held accountable for anything. Whether it's working with Russia to interfere in 2016's election, lying about paying off adult actresses, selling access to the president, exploiting one's elected position to sell hotel sales, or lying about an attempted insurrection. In my experience, those who whine about "Personal responsibility" only really mean, "Personal responsibility for everyone else, complete immunity for me and my tribe."
  • Those who demonize immigration and fantasize about domestic factory jobs would never be caught dead working the types of jobs immigrants work. If manufacturing came back, immigrants would have to work in the factories due to their poor salaries and working conditions. That's a big reason why factories left and children of factory workers went to college, factory work sucks. And those who complain about offshoring, are usually the first to run to Walmart to buy cheap ****. They'd never pay the high prices of domestically produced goods.
  • Those who whine about the tyranny of globalism ALWAYS overlook the tyranny of local control. Here in America, state legislatures have caused much more suffering than any tyrannical distant globalist leader. Slavery (remember, it was a state's rights issue, right??? :) ), Jim Crow, anti-miscegenation, anti LGBT, even anti-Mormon legislation was all passed by local and state leaders. Just look at what "local" leaders are doing across the country right now:
https://www.ksl.com/article/50337393/utah-lawmaker-abandons-controversial-school-curriculum-bill (didn't pass in Utah but has passed in other states. Oh the tyranny! Gimmie Freedom or Gimmie death!)
 
It is the abolishment of the power of the individual. Take school boards as an example of a local seat of power. Parents can show up to face those making the decisions, can realistically run for office themselves, and as such they have a greater voice. If school boards were abolished and all control was at the federal level by administrators appointed by the President then local parents would effectively have zero input over local decisions.

As someone who is actually an educator, this would be a dream come true. Greater voice for individuals does not mean greater results/outcomes.
 
It is the abolishment of the power of the individual. Take school boards as an example of a local seat of power. Parents can show up to face those making the decisions, can realistically run for office themselves, and as such they have a greater voice. If school boards were abolished and all control was at the federal level by administrators appointed by the President then local parents would effectively have zero input over local decisions. Globalism is removing the seat of power one step further than federal to seat the power internationally.

Maybe a global government ruling on all issues from afar is the answer and maybe it is a recipe for civil war. Maybe a mix where some things are decided internationally, some federally, some on the province level, and some on the neighborhood level is the answer. Where to draw the line of where power is located is in a nutshell the issue with globalism but in having that debate we should not be so naive as to believe giving control over to a global government would mean the end of exploitation, oppression or discrimination. That is rainbow-unicorn talk.
I think you are right in the specifics of the politics of today, generally.

I am a globalist. LOL. Let's see the little crew scramble over that one. But it is true.

Some of the comments above even begin to aporoximate my own view.

Most "Christians" are globalists. Come, Lord Jesus. But we don't have that variety represented much in this discussion. I think even Marxism drew upon that construct, building a kind of dream world, or trying to, without invoking God, and in fact taking the whole idea of "God" as a direct competitor to the "cause".

Several of our contributors here deny being Marxist or Communist, and trend to run in all directions around what "Conservatives" assume they are.

David Rockefeller was a globalist. The Queen of England is a globalist. Most remnants of former monarchies are globalists today. Socialists are globalists. I already mentioned some grand political categories.

The American Constitution could be a basis for global government, in fact the UN Charter mimics in words, not deeds, some of those ideas. In Utah, in the Mormon Church, in the Bush League (RINO), there is a kind of globalism that rhetorically claims the mantle "Rule of Law", and then tries to do a top-down tap dance to make it their way. This might be termed "Crony Capitalism" or Chamber of Commerce capitalism. A lot of business has been done historically among common-cause friends (conspirators???) operating essentially off of the social networks of Masonic groups, Committees on Foreign Relations or the parent organization the Council on Foreign Relations. Outside of this country there are comparable national or local groupings, sometimes but not always political parties or the support network for various kinds of tyrants

The Brookings Institution is an example among hundreds of similar organizations with political bearings on developments ongoing in our world. I think I could name one person often in here with a mentor from that outfit. I think I could name three who have mentors or guides or influences from the Chinese Communist Party, and two with their feet in the local Committee on Foreign Relations. As a proverbial "Fly on the Wall" in places like these, I do see a bit of what is going on.

My version of "globalism" would consider corporate ties, or appointments to any kind of regulatory or policy-making political body ineligible on grounds of conflicts of interest. It would require all officers or legislators to be elecdted by voters, essentially all citizens bearing residence in the relevant political district. It would stipulate standards of election procedures that eliminates all kinds, every conceivable kind, of falsification of the vote count. The law would criminalize corporate contributions, and contributions in excess of ten standard deviations of the average contribution by single voters. thus, if the average voter contributes $100, and the standard deviation is $50, a political candidate cannot himself contribute nor take any contribution more than $500.

I'm sure there are ways we can work out a good, non-corrupt system that eliminates the power grabbing and the corruption of our government by "interests" and eliminates lawmakers creating favored interests.

There would need to be a kind of "electoral college" that helps ensure local governments are not just overwhelmed by voters from far and beyond, in large numbers, eliminating the local decision making. But stuff that is truly global in scope would be decided by legilators, elecdted, representative lawmakers, in a world legislature. There would need to be protec5tion against overbearing accumulations of unnecessary power.

My globalism would have absolutely inviolable human rights, limited government powers but appropriate powers to address issues on appropriate scales. And no Crony Capitalistts.

I would hope for legislation favorable to more "Cooperative3" businesses or other organizations so long as they were run on charters, either based on paid in investment or raw membership status, or a charte3r specifying governance a principle of liberally benefitting members.

Lots of stuff we can talk about.

A UN with no elected officers, all corporate or government (tyrannical governments mostly), and no effective protection of human rights just isn't acceptable.
 
Just imagine if a globalist was in charge of Virginia’s edu system. Imagine what a cluster that would be! Amiright?

 
This Twitter thread explains some of that, I believe. I’m not super Twitter savvy, so hopefully I’m linking this correctly.


I did not see in that thread where they discussed the large number of leases in private land that have already been approved. Could you point out the timestamp for me?
 
Link wont work for me. What is it about?


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Not sure why the link won’t open for you. Here’s the opening few paragraphs:

Last week's assault by Russian forces on the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant was far more dangerous than initial assessments suggested, according to an analysis by NPR of video and photographs of the attack and its aftermath.

A thorough review of a four-hour, 21-minute security camera video of the attack reveals that Russian forces repeatedly fired heavy weapons in the direction of the plant's massive reactor buildings, which housed dangerous nuclear fuel. Photos show that an administrative building directly in front of the reactor complex was shredded by Russian fire. And a video from inside the plant shows damage and a possible Russian shell that landed less than 250 feet from the Unit 2 reactor building.

The security camera footage also shows Russian troops haphazardly firing rocket-propelled grenades into the main administrative building at the plant and turning away Ukrainian firefighters even as a fire raged out of control in a nearby training building.

The evidence stands in stark contrast to early comments by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), which while acknowledging the seriousness of the assault, emphasized that the action took place away from the reactors. In a news conferenceimmediately after the attack, IAEA Director-General Rafael Mariano Grossi made reference to only a single projectile hitting a training building adjacent to the reactor complex.

“All the safety systems of the six reactors at the plant were not affected at all," Grossi told reporters at the March 4 briefing.

In fact, the training building took multiple strikes, and it was hardly the only part of the site to take fire from Russian forces. The security footage supports claims by Ukraine's nuclear regulator of damage at three other locations: the Unit 1 reactor building, the transformer at the Unit 6 reactor and the spent fuel pad, which is used to store nuclear waste. It also shows ordnance striking a high-voltage line outside the plant. The IAEA says two such lines were damaged in the attack.

“This video is very disturbing," says Edwin Lyman, director of nuclear power safety at the Union of Concerned Scientists. While the types of reactors used at the plant are far safer than the one that exploded in Chernobyl in 1986, the Russian attack could have triggered a meltdown similar to the kind that struck Japan's Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant in 2011, he warns.

"It's completely insane to subject a nuclear plant to this kind of an assault," Lyman says.
 
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Not sure why the link won’t open for you. Here’s the opening few paragraphs:

Last week's assault by Russian forces on the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant was far more dangerous than initial assessments suggested, according to an analysis by NPR of video and photographs of the attack and its aftermath.

A thorough review of a four-hour, 21-minute security camera video of the attack reveals that Russian forces repeatedly fired heavy weapons in the direction of the plant's massive reactor buildings, which housed dangerous nuclear fuel. Photos show that an administrative building directly in front of the reactor complex was shredded by Russian fire. And a video from inside the plant shows damage and a possible Russian shell that landed less than 250 feet from the Unit 2 reactor building.

The security camera footage also shows Russian troops haphazardly firing rocket-propelled grenades into the main administrative building at the plant and turning away Ukrainian firefighters even as a fire raged out of control in a nearby training building.

The evidence stands in stark contrast to early comments by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), which while acknowledging the seriousness of the assault, emphasized that the action took place away from the reactors. In a news conferenceimmediately after the attack, IAEA Director-General Rafael Mariano Grossi made reference to only a single projectile hitting a training building adjacent to the reactor complex.

“All the safety systems of the six reactors at the plant were not affected at all," Grossi told reporters at the March 4 briefing.

In fact, the training building took multiple strikes, and it was hardly the only part of the site to take fire from Russian forces. The security footage supports claims by Ukraine's nuclear regulator of damage at three other locations: the Unit 1 reactor building, the transformer at the Unit 6 reactor and the spent fuel pad, which is used to store nuclear waste. It also shows ordnance striking a high-voltage line outside the plant. The IAEA says two such lines were damaged in the attack.

“This video is very disturbing," says Edwin Lyman, director of nuclear power safety at the Union of Concerned Scientists. While the types of reactors used at the plant are far safer than the one that exploded in Chernobyl in 1986, the Russian attack could have triggered a meltdown similar to the kind that struck Japan's Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant in 2011, he warns.

"It's completely insane to subject a nuclear plant to this kind of an assault," Lyman says.
Thank you.
That is bad news
 
Seems like a lot of US companies in russia are closing up shop. Mcdonalds, pepsi, coke, burger king and many more. Doesn't trump have some businesses in Russia? A trump tower or something? I wonder if he is shutting it down.
 
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