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colton said:
If you're not running, why didn't you accept HIS offer?
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My offer, actually my TWO offers, are on the table.

If a Utah hater is afraid to accept either of 2 offers, from the biggest Ute homer on the board, then perhaps my prediction was not so homerish at all.

Care to take me up on a bet Colton? You know my offers both stand for you too...
 
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At what point does this turn into a weight-lifting challenge with potential legal ramifications and rife with sexual tension?
 
And you haters remember, I said I would actually pick 3 BYU losses too. So even though BYU plays a much crappier schedule, and even though their schedule is only half done (showing empty weeks for half the season), I will take that and pick 3 losses right now.

So... lets do this.
 
If anyone thinks BYU has a "better than average chance" to beat Utah they are crazy. The last decade, Utah is 10-3. BYU's only wins were off of miracle plays and BYU had NFL QB's, RB's and TE's in those wins. BYU's talent is nowhere near the level they had to pull off miraculous wins.

Utah will win handily, the series will end, and BYU fans will always run around saying Utah is scared to play them with _____________ at QB. Sad really.

Here is reality: Utah State used to be Utah's rival. Utah left for a better conference and you can see what happened to that rivalry. Utah has now left BYU for a better conference, and with every Chase Hansen, every year that passes that Utah puts 3-5 x's more players in the NFL, and every blowout win (7-3 in the last decade), this rivalry will fade away.

If BYU fan thinks Utah fan will be disappointed to trade BYU for a B1G team they are crazy. Beat BYU by 40 - no national ranking. Beat B1G team by 40 - nationally ranked. See the difference? Relevance vs non-relevance.
 
SaltyDawg said:
colton said:
If you're not running, why didn't you accept HIS offer?
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My offer, actually my TWO offers, are on the table.
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That doesn't answer the question. Why don't you accept HIS offer? In case you missed it, he offered you basically the same thing he offered you, just in reverse.

The fact that you don't want to accept his offer just underscores the problem with your own offer(s).

Care to take me up on a bet Colton? You know my offers both stand for you too...
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Sorry, I don't bet. But even if I did, I certainly wouldn't agree to a sucker bet where one has to pick three specific games that Utah will lose. And yes, it's a sucker bet. Even if I think of three specific games that Utah has a 70% chance of losing, the change of Utah losing ALL THREE is only 0.7^3 = 34%.(*)

So tell me again, why won't you accept bordy's proposition?

(*) Assuming statistical independence, of course.
 
colton said:
That doesn't answer the question. Why don't you accept HIS offer? In case you missed it, he offered you basically the same thing he offered you, just in reverse.

The fact that you don't want to accept his offer just underscores the problem with your own offer(s).
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There is no problem with my offer. If you think I'm a homer for saying Utah won't lose 3 games, then tell me 3 games Utah will lose. Simple. As I said, I'll go on record right now and do the same thing for BYU- even though they have a much crappier schedule and a lot less games to choose from at the moment.

colton said:
Sorry, I don't bet. But even if I did, I certainly wouldn't agree to a sucker bet where one has to pick three specific games that Utah will lose. And yes, it's a sucker bet. Even if I think of three specific games that Utah has a 70% chance of losing, the change of Utah losing ALL THREE is only 0.7^3 = 34%.(*)

So tell me again, why won't you accept bordy's proposition?

(*) Assuming statistical independence, of course.
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And, again, I said I will gladly do the same thing with BYU, even though they have a much crappier schedule and fewer games to choose from.

Since you keep asking the same question over and over: I will not accept his proposition because I am not here accepting offers. I made a claim, and if you think my claim is just nonsense from a delusional homer, then you can point out why my claim is wrong. And if you're not just some idiot hater saying crap because you think it makes you cool, then you should have no trouble picking 3 games that you are confident Utah will lose (assuming you think my claim was delusional homer nonsense).

So, again, if anyone thinks my claim was delusional homer nonsense, point out where it was wrong. Show me the games Utah will lose. And if you're really confident and not just trying to stir up crap, then we can bet.

It's easy to just sit back and say I'm nothing but a homer. When push comes to shove, nobody can go on record and risk consequences by disagreeing with my claim.
 
SaltyDawg said:
So, again, if anyone thinks my claim was delusional homer nonsense, point out where it was wrong. Show me the games Utah will lose. And if you're really confident and not just trying to stir up crap, then we can bet.
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So, again, if you think your claim is not delusional homer nonsense, point out where it was right. Show us the games Utah will win. And if you're really confident and not just trying to stir up crap, then we can bet.
 
Ownage of sackless morons rampant in this thread. Well done bordy and colton.

Anyone with a problem knows where to find me.
 
bordelais7 said:
So, again, if you think your claim is not delusional homer nonsense, point out where it was right. Show us the games Utah will win. And if you're really confident and not just trying to stir up crap, then we can bet.
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Translation: I will not bet. Even if you make a double or nothing offer and pick 3 BYU losses, I am still not comfortable betting on 3 Utah losses.

Yeah, remember this when you clowns want to call me a homer this season. I'm such a homer that you can't point out where my prediction was wrong.
 
(For the record, I know full well that Salty will never back down from his stupidity, and will continue to avoid the real topic via obfuscation. I merely revel in continuing to have people out themselves as idiots in public. In this case, however, it's becoming almost TOO effortless, and I'm actually beginning to feel a shred of sympathy.)
 
CONAN said:
Ownage of sackless morons rampant in this thread. Well done bordy and colton.

Anyone with a problem knows where to find me.
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Yeah, we know where to find you, the local high school, playing with a bunch of teenage boys.

Sounds like smack talk, but we both know it's reality.
 
bordelais7 said:
(For the record, I know full well that Salty will never back down from his stupidity, and will continue to avoid the real topic via obfuscation. I merely revel in continuing to have people out themselves as idiots in public. In this case, however, it's becoming almost TOO effortless, and I'm actually beginning to feel a shred of sympathy.)
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And for the record, I knew you were all talk and wouldn't put your money where your mouth was. At least Scat actually picked 3 games.
 
tell you what Bordy, lets find out which of us is really sackless, and which isn't. And lets be fair about it.

If you are really trying to be fair, then match my offer. Like I said, I will do a double or nothing bet where I pick 3 BYU losses.

So if you really want me to pick 10 Utah wins, then I will do it. However, you have to give me a double or nothing bet where you pick 10 BYU wins. And you have to pick Utah as one of the teams BYU beats, and I will pick BYU as one of the teams Utah beats. That way one of use is definitely going to lose.

Lets do this. You in, or sackless?

Your move, haters.
 
SaltyDawg said:
tell you what Bordy, lets find out which of us is really sackless, and which isn't. And lets be fair about it.

If you are really trying to be fair, then match my offer. Like I said, I will do a double or nothing bet where I pick 3 BYU losses.

So if you really want me to pick 10 Utah wins, then I will do it. However, you have to give me a double or nothing bet where you pick 10 BYU wins. And you have to pick Utah as one of the teams BYU beats, and I will pick BYU as one of the teams Utah beats. That way one of use is definitely going to lose.

Lets do this. You in, or sackless?

Your move, haters.
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Trying to find where I said ANYTHING about BYU in this thread, much less "I don't see how BYU loses more than 2 regular season games (if that)". I have a hard time imagining that I'd say anything that irresponsible. Can you help me find that? I mean, once you do, I'll be happy to back up my words.
 
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