At this stage of the off-season, where do you think the Jazz finish in the West?

[FrenchJazzFa]

1. Nugs ( so impressive last year, they will remain on top)
2. Suns ( pretty good line up with the add)
3. Wolves ( i believe Rudy will com back to his level, Ant keep improving and Mike still got some on the tank, could go down if they loose KAT)
4. Kings
5. Grizz
6. Warriors (coud be higher if CP got something left in the tank)
7. Pelicans ( if Zion healthy)
8. Jazz
9. Mavs
10. LAkers

But honestly hard to predict, How the spurs will play, Clippers might be there too.... if we ended somewhere between 6 and 8 , will be delighted.

 

[Step-Back Hook]

5-6 if Dunn is as great he were in his short stint. 7-10 if he is not as good as I wish. Him and Kessler should be our defensive backbone+ Dunn is a great floor general. if he will deserve minutes and getting them he is running for the mip.

 

[Step-Back Hook]

Clarkson/Agbaji Is a pretty solid backcourt pairing. I’d be interested in seeing how well that would work. Also, love the pairing of Sexton and THT together as well.

It really is not. Starting five needs either Dunn or Sexton for the sets run smoother and the ball moving. Dunn has GREAT decision making and Sexton was getting better all the time. If neither is starting I will be so frustrated.

 

[zags422]

I think we will miss out barely again. I think we tank and preserve our top 10 pick for 2024 draft. Build from within

 

[Eddie Zero]

Simple question: Where do you think the Jazz rank in the Western Conference now that the draft and the majority of free agency have concluded?

Expected Rotation
1- Clarkson / Horton-Tucker / Dunn
2- Agbaji / Sexton / George
3- Markkanen / Fontecchio / Sensabaugh
4- Collins / Hendricks / Samanic
5- Kessler / Olynyk / Collins

That depth chart if the pecking order rotation was as you have it, lacks a lot of playmaking. I would not expect it to be doled out in that way ,unless we tank, which looks improbable.
Having Clarkson in the starting 5 at the 1 for example, is ok if Sexton isn't, if you want to win games but not at the 1. He is the epitome of microwave 1 on 5.
Play him off Dunn or THT if you want on the 2nd unit and trade him at the deadline to any contender or fringe contender needing a bench scorer. Then hand it to KG.
Using him at the pg spot would only tank his trade value and send us into bottom 5 territory.
I give us a 32 win ceiling with a 24 win floor if we started those 5 and brought rookies and Sexton in on low usage and low minutes. Not bad but nothing worth remembering.
my rotation order to win most minutes to least is LM,Sexton,Kessler,Ochai,Clarkson,KO,Hendricks,THT,KG,Dunn. Minutes restrictions: Collins and Brice for KO and THT. Everyone else garbage time practice squad

 

[stitches]

I'm still not 100% certain this will be the final roster before the season starts. I think this is about .500 team... maybe a bit higher, maybe a bit lower. I think we still are looking for THE GUY on this team.

 

[Eddie Zero]

I'm still not 100% certain this will be the final roster before the season starts. I think this is about .500 team... maybe a bit higher, maybe a bit lower. I think we still are looking for THE GUY on this team.

if we stand as is, was the op q. but you think we are going to win 40 games with this roster?
That is very optimisitic, but ok

 

[stitches]

if we stand as is, was the op q. but you think we are going to win 40 games with this roster?
That is very optimisitic, but ok

Well we were about .500 before we decided to go full tank last season and started resting key players. Again... it might be a few games under .500... or a few games over .500 depending on luck.

 

[Eddie Zero]

1. Nugs ( so impressive last year, they will remain on top)
2. Suns ( pretty good line up with the add)
3. Wolves ( i believe Rudy will com back to his level, Ant keep improving and Mike still got some on the tank, could go down if they loose KAT)
4. Kings
5. Grizz
6. Warriors (coud be higher if CP got something left in the tank)
7. Pelicans ( if Zion healthy)
8. Jazz
9. Mavs
10. LAkers

But honestly hard to predict, How the spurs will play, Clippers might be there too.... if we ended somewhere between 6 and 8 , will be delighted.

Nuggets just lost the Marcus Smart of their roster to the Pacers on a massive overpay to get him to sell out the champs.
Don't be surprised if Denver is a one and done and never sniff the finals again with the Joker at the helm

 

[Eddie Zero]

Well we were about .500 before we decided to go full tank last season and started resting key players. Again... it might be a few games under .500... or a few games over .500 depending on luck.

we had Mike remember? we don't have that kind of captain here

 

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

Lakers got way better in FA but these predictions have them around the jazz?

If the clippers are healthy they are really tough and they have a new coach and may get Harden and they are in the play in range?

Every team that has added Chris Paul has improved the following season, but yall have the warriors as the 10th seed? They had Jordan poole on the court after that sucker punch and now he is gone. Less cancer, more vets, less inefficient chucking.

We had a deeper, more veteran team last year in spite of Collins addition. Conley helped a lot but he is gone. .500 ball is optimistic unless Hardy balls out. Play in is possible but I have us in the 9 - 10 range if all teams play injury free.

 

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

Memphis was better in the regular season without Ja and they replaced Brooks with Smart who are virtually identical players. They aren't slipping in the regular season.

 

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

Wolves: 1 year to gel. Do they lose KAT? They should improve just based on ANT getting older and gelling plus Conley being the adult in the room.

Kings should be better and they were a top 3 team last year.

Pels: Zion healthy made them a top 2 team last year.

 

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

1. Nugs
2. Kings
3. Warriors (CP bump, addition by subtraction Poole)
4. Clippers (5th seed last year without health or Harden - they can't be less than 8th)
5. Lakers (roster issues are in the past. Not a 13th seed late in the season)
6. Suns (take a minute to gel and lack of depth has them at the 5 seed)
7. Pelicans ( if Zion healthy they were top 2 seed)
8. TWolves (Wolves gonna Wolve)
9. Grizz (Slipping a bit without Ja)

The Jazz, OKC, and Mavs really don't look better than those teams to me right now. The west is stacked.

Injuries and locker room spats can drop any team here no question, but 10 - 12 looks likely.

 

[HermanG]

Without Dame 45-48 wins and 5-6 seed.

With Dame 50-52 wins and 3-4 seed.

 

[Eddie Zero]

Without Dame 45-48 wins and 5-6 seed.

With Dame 50-52 wins and 3-4 seed.

you been eating that crack o ash soup again have you not smh
45 wins is very optimistic for a young roster, you are setting yourself for disap
and if you are right, there is no way in hell we are trading for Dame to win 5 more games

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Without Dame 45-48 wins and 5-6 seed.

With Dame 50-52 wins and 3-4 seed.

You really think Dame would only add 5 -7 wins?

 

[HermanG]

You really think Dame would only add 5 -7 wins?

Yeah we did have a lot of close games last year so you might be right.

I was just thinking Dame vs Clarkson, and how much the difference is in either of those contributing to wins.

 

[HermanG]

you been eating that crack o ash soup again have you not smh
45 wins is very optimistic for a young roster, you are setting yourself for disap
and if you are right, there is no way in hell we are trading for Dame to win 5 more games

I am an optimist but Im not often disappointed. Life goes on even if I'm wrong, but being hyped up is worth it.

Maybe you fear being disappointed too much.

Besides, we would have won 40+ last year had we tried our best all the way. No reason to think we are worse now, even if Hardys style is bound to be better scouted.

 

[Step-Back Hook]

Yeah we did have a lot of close games last year so you might be right.

I was just thinking Dame vs Clarkson, and how much the difference is in either of those contributing to wins.

Losing tight games was a lot about not getting enough stops. With or without Dame it comes down to rotations and how much better we take care about defense in the crunch time. As good as JC and K.O. were in offense it hurt our winning in defense. With the addition of Collins and Hendricks we will have upgraded defensive frontcourt. And if it eill come down to winning we have Dunn and ochai to slow down their ball handlers. I think one o ochai or Dunn needs to close for us in tight games.