Haha good one. But he/she must really have some time on their hands to throw down this much long winded info.
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Haha good one. But he/she must really have some time on their hands to throw down this much long winded info.
You missed the logic there. The fact that some business fail might not be because there is not a profit margin in the product. And an uninformed outsider might think the business failed when in fact it succeeded wildly and was bought out.
I guess you are deaf to the thunder of this statement. Let me restate it in simple terms:
Vaccine makers were justly fearful that trials by juries in fair courts would put them out of business, so they hired lobbyists to convince lawmakers to set up a kangaroo court where claims against their ware could reliably be dismissed.
Well you made in interesting attempt, but allow me to retort.
I would love to be sanctioned by a local medical board. Wait... does it hurt?
Now when you're talking about "naturopaths", as I suppose your circles call them..... you decribed them as "home-made garbage".
I will tell you exactly why so-called "effective medicine" makes 100 times more money for any company.
Man-made over the counter and prescription drugs can be PATENTED.......
I apologize for not being clear. Extant pharmeceutical companies, who are still in business making other products, have been dropping their vaccine lines becasue they are insufficiently profitable.
There are pharmeceutical lobbyists, and I'm sure they dovote some of their time to vaccines, but I have never heard of a vaccine lobbyist.
You seem to forget there is push-back against price-point changes in medical services from health insurance companies. They work very hard to keep vaccination costs as low as possible, and they also have plenty of money and lobbyists.
No, I did not assume you were "the honcho" (did you mean committee chair?). I just thought that you might be basing your claims of knowledge on how/why grant money is distributed based upon actually being in a committee where itis distrubuted. I read a couple of blogs from people whoactually write grants, and they seem to feel their awards, or lack of awards, are merit-and-presentation-based, not political.
I think losing your license to practice medicine (which is one possible result of these sanctions) would hurt. I think being forced to submit all your cases to another doctor for review (another possible sanction) would hurt.
Actually, "naturopath" is a term they have chosen for themselves, and I called what they sold "garbage", not the people (although some of the people might deserve such a description).
Even after the patent expires, you can still make money, although less of it.
However, the reason people buy the patented medicines, instead of using older rememdies or going without, is because they work better than the older rememdies, or going without. Insurance companies, which are not owned by harmaceuticals, cover the cost of my monthly $180 for Advair, but won't cover $20 for some naturopath brew. Do you think that's because Anthem/Wellpoint likes to throw away money?
You can sneer, disparage, and engage in emotional attacks and conspiracies. You will not be able to explain why billion-dollar corporations with huge government lobbies willingly pay more to provide patented medicine that naturopathic garbage, until yo uacknowledge that it is because the former works and the latter does not.
The former only works better than the latter in some instances.
I guess we will never understand each other.
Science will never create anything better than the earth can.
Why didn't you address the millions of side effects?
When I see prescription drug commercials on TV, I laugh my *** off.
Side effects ranging anywhere from a stomach ache to death lol.
So if you're willing to risk the side effects of these drugs, go for it.
It doesn't change the fact that they are not safe, and most are extremely addicting.
I would say living with a certain condition outweighs the side effect of dropping dead. Wouldn't you??
Just wondering. . . .
why the dogma about "natural" and the assertion that science is incapable of improving anything. . . .
Even herbal remedies and tinctures are mucked up with alcoholic solvent extraction or some other human technology. Even naturopaths have their little protocols.
And there are plenty of toxic effects due to ingestion of completely natural stuff.
I guess I'm gonna have to lock you and OB in this little thread and let you both resist the opportunity to learn anything.
The former only works better than the latter in some instances.
I guess we will never understand each other.
Science will never create anything better than the earth can.
Why didn't you address the millions of side effects?
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I would say living with a certain condition outweighs the side effect of dropping dead. Wouldn't you??
patronizing Science, and just accepting the offerings wholesale is to me the same thing as patronizing a Church, and accepting the authoritative offerings wholesale.
My 2 year old daughter has been sick maybe 3 or 4 times in her entire life, whereas all the kids at her daycare are constantly getting sick.
But interestingly enough.... she rarely gets what the other kids have, and if she does it is very mild compared to the others.
You don't need much scientific evidence to see it with your own eyes.
I guess we will never understand each other.
Actually, the article states that the standards of proof are the same as in civil court (preponderance of evidence), and that in practice, this means that is you suffer the routine side effects of a vaccine you are compensated pretty much automatically. The upside for vaccine manufacturers in the no-fault aspect: punitive damages are not awarded, avoiding million-dollar judgements. The courts are fair, and in practice, the standards are even easier to meet than in a normal civil court.
I think your interpretation of the article is a good example of your general accuracy in evaluating reality.
You are correct that the legislature was worried that the manufacturers would stop making vaccines entirely. Why would someone make a product that earns minimal profits and exposes them to huge amounts of risk?
It appears to me that perhaps when you go grocery shopping you read the labels on the cans, and feel secure in the notion that nobody would lie in a label like that.
The government, on the other hand, is all about spin. Yes the labels sound good, but who is watching the actual product.
And the fact is, this "special court" that does not allow jury trials is unconstittutional.
If I believed that, and the more general things that would say about human behavior, I would be a libertarian calling for defunding the FDA. Any trust I have is in the limited benefit to lying (very few people carefully read labels) compared to the limited potential to face fines if caught lying. People will buy Sugar-Soaked Crunchies no matter what the label says, as long as Jim the Jaybird tells their kids how yummy it is.
Before the Progressive Era, when companies self-policed, it was much worse.
As you could have read in the article, some plaintiffs are bypassing vaccine court. However, if you want to be compensated fully and quickly for your expenses, and are not interested in punitive damages, you really can't do better than go to vaccine court.
"Some instances" being "actual diseases".
I understand you on this topic fairly well. You're wrong, but not incomprehensible. YOu have to be "better" at something, and science has definitely come up with medicines that are better at treating specific conditions than any known natural remedy.
Real medicine causes changes in body chemistry. Any time body chemistry actually changes, there are effects. Some of these effects are not helpfulto fighting the disease, these are "side effects". Any putative treatment that does not have potential side effects is not medicine.
If I had to choose between living for thirty years breathing as I do without my medicines, or twenty years with my medicines, I'll take the twenty. In fact, I could go even say that for 20 and 10. They improve my life that much. However, the truth is that without my medicine, I might not be alive right now.