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Trump Dictatorship and All Things Politics
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lol you guys have NO IDEA what Elon is doing.
Please, give me a summary of his plan. Bullets.
We are so ****ed.
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Please, give me a summary of his plan. Bullets.
We are so ****ed.
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Sure hope Elon cuts at least this much, and this is just what Tesla has received from Fed and local subsidies. $2B
Space X got $3.3B in the last 12 months.
abcnews.go.com
You’ve finally met the African prince that emails you all the time.
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Space X got $3.3B in the last 12 months.
Democrats demand investigation into Musk's alleged 'conflicts' over billions in fed contracts
House Judiciary Democrats sent a terse letter Friday to Attorney General Pam Bondi, expressing concerns that Elon Musk’s role at DOGE creates "conflicts of interest."
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You’ve finally met the African prince that emails you all the time.
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Um.
View: https://x.com/JDVance/status/1888607143030391287
What’s the point in having other branches of government then? Why not just have an absolute monarch? Why even fight a war and have a revolution if we just wanted to live like this? What recourse do we the people have when a leader decides he doesn’t have to obey the constitution, judges, and court orders and becomes a law unto himself? Thomas Jefferson had some thoughts about lawless tyrants.
What will Americans do in the 21st century when weak obese men decide to become dictators?
Btw, just imagine what Fox News and social media would’ve said had Harris tweeted something like this out after student loan forgiveness had been blocked by the courts. “Both parties are the same” amiright???
View: https://x.com/JDVance/status/1888607143030391287
What’s the point in having other branches of government then? Why not just have an absolute monarch? Why even fight a war and have a revolution if we just wanted to live like this? What recourse do we the people have when a leader decides he doesn’t have to obey the constitution, judges, and court orders and becomes a law unto himself? Thomas Jefferson had some thoughts about lawless tyrants.
What will Americans do in the 21st century when weak obese men decide to become dictators?
Btw, just imagine what Fox News and social media would’ve said had Harris tweeted something like this out after student loan forgiveness had been blocked by the courts. “Both parties are the same” amiright???
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For the same purpose of having things like individual rights, the tenth amendment, and jurisdiction. The point is to put limits on power. The Yale lawyer is correct when he says a judge cannot tell a general how to conduct a military operation because their jurisdiction does not extend there. It is the same reason the State Department in the Executive Branch negotiates treaties, but the treaty is non-binding until the Senate in the Legislative Branch ratifies it.
The Yale lawyer is saying the judge in this instance has overstepped the limits of their judicial power, and he has a point.
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Don’t know if it was posted, but since the Pew Research poll has been mentioned…
www.pewresearch.org
1. Trump’s second term: Early ratings and expectations
Americans are deeply divided over Trump’s plans and how he is handling his job as president in the early weeks of his return to office.
www.pewresearch.org
Al-O-Meter
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It doesn't matter. Trump is termed out and doesn't have to concern himself with running again. He is free to do what is right, and that is what he has set about doing.Don’t know if it was posted, but since the Pew Research poll has been mentioned…
1. Trump’s second term: Early ratings and expectations
Americans are deeply divided over Trump’s plans and how he is handling his job as president in the early weeks of his return to office.
Al-O-Meter
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Elon doesn't have the power to cut anything, but it appears the cuts recommended are going to dwarf that amount. The axing of the SLS program alone will save taxpayers $3 billion per year.
Boeing has informed its employees that NASA may cancel SLS contracts
The White House has not made a final decision yet on the large rocket.
arstechnica.com
Mongoose
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What a concept! Power to the people through an elected president and his appointees. Imagine being upset that the candidate nobody wanted and nobody voted for lost an election. Democrats are the dumbest people ever. Is it any wonder the dumbest morons on earth are so brain washed?
View: https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1888654656106377272?s=12
View: https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1888654656106377272?s=12
Red
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More perspective.
“It’s still early days and the challengers are selecting friendly jurisdictions in which to file their suits,” said Ilya Shapiro, director of constitutional studies at the Manhattan Institute.
He said the birthright citizenship case, for example, is “destined for the Supreme Court.” He figured other cases will come more sharply into focus as Mr. Trump hones in on what he’s trying to accomplish, such as with his spending pause.
“But in any event, these executive actions are much better lawyered than the flying-by-the-seat-of-the-pants moves eight years ago,” Mr. Shapiro said.
Underpinning Mr. Trump’s early moves is a sense of expansive executive powers.
Stephen Vladeck, a law professor at Georgetown University, wrote in an opinion piece that Mr. Trump is following through on what’s become known as the unitary executive theory of the presidency. That view, espoused by conservatives in particular, holds that since the president is elected by voters, he has full personal authority over the operations of the executive branch.
www.stevevladeck.com
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“It’s still early days and the challengers are selecting friendly jurisdictions in which to file their suits,” said Ilya Shapiro, director of constitutional studies at the Manhattan Institute.
He said the birthright citizenship case, for example, is “destined for the Supreme Court.” He figured other cases will come more sharply into focus as Mr. Trump hones in on what he’s trying to accomplish, such as with his spending pause.
“But in any event, these executive actions are much better lawyered than the flying-by-the-seat-of-the-pants moves eight years ago,” Mr. Shapiro said.
Underpinning Mr. Trump’s early moves is a sense of expansive executive powers.
Stephen Vladeck, a law professor at Georgetown University, wrote in an opinion piece that Mr. Trump is following through on what’s become known as the unitary executive theory of the presidency. That view, espoused by conservatives in particular, holds that since the president is elected by voters, he has full personal authority over the operations of the executive branch.
Bonus 121: The Unitary Executive Runs Amok
The Supreme Court may (and should) reject the broadest claims of executive power being made by the Trump administration. But it bears significant responsibility for enabling them in the first place.
www.stevevladeck.com
Trump and the 'unitary executive': The presidential power theory driving his 2nd term
President Trump's flurry of executive actions and orders spark a critical question: Does he have the power he claims to have?
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In the long run, this is just asking for trouble.
About halfway through his first term as president, Donald Trump declared, “I have an Article II, where I have the right to do whatever I want as president.” In the first three weeks since his second inauguration, the Trump administration seems to be taking this belief in a “unitary executive” to its extreme ends.….
In mid-2019, when Trump began more frequently referencing Article II of the U.S. Constitution, which vests executive power in the president, most observers assumed that it reflected his belief that he could have directed the U.S. Attorney General to shut down the investigation of then-Special Counsel Robert Mueller.
This go around, Trump seems to be taking to heart his belief that he “has the right to do whatever [he] wants as president.” From his first day in office, Trump has declared a culture war on diversity, equity, inclusion, and accessibility programs, on the phantom threat of Marxists, on so-called “gender ideology,” and the ill-defined boogeyman “wokeness,” and he is using his asserted absolute control over the executive to conduct his war…..
The unitary executive theory has always been a dangerous idea given the risk of presidential overreach and abuse of power. And Trump is practicing a unitary executive on steroids, brazenly stepping on Congress’s constitutional power and daring a House and Senate controlled by his party to stop him. Congress can and should reclaim its role, and as litigants file suits, the federal judiciary can also weigh in. Without pushback from the other two branches of government, however, there’s no telling how hulking Trump’s unitary executive may become.
About halfway through his first term as president, Donald Trump declared, “I have an Article II, where I have the right to do whatever I want as president.” In the first three weeks since his second inauguration, the Trump administration seems to be taking this belief in a “unitary executive” to its extreme ends.….
In mid-2019, when Trump began more frequently referencing Article II of the U.S. Constitution, which vests executive power in the president, most observers assumed that it reflected his belief that he could have directed the U.S. Attorney General to shut down the investigation of then-Special Counsel Robert Mueller.
This go around, Trump seems to be taking to heart his belief that he “has the right to do whatever [he] wants as president.” From his first day in office, Trump has declared a culture war on diversity, equity, inclusion, and accessibility programs, on the phantom threat of Marxists, on so-called “gender ideology,” and the ill-defined boogeyman “wokeness,” and he is using his asserted absolute control over the executive to conduct his war…..
The unitary executive theory has always been a dangerous idea given the risk of presidential overreach and abuse of power. And Trump is practicing a unitary executive on steroids, brazenly stepping on Congress’s constitutional power and daring a House and Senate controlled by his party to stop him. Congress can and should reclaim its role, and as litigants file suits, the federal judiciary can also weigh in. Without pushback from the other two branches of government, however, there’s no telling how hulking Trump’s unitary executive may become.
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That's what they want. They said it outright. Dictator on day 1.
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Make conspiracism the default thinking mode, and have the richest man on Earth spread the lies, lies that conspiracies use to provide targets for the angry mob, and amass power for the liars, and here we are. Conspiracy theories and Big Liars at the top of the political food chain, and this will be a huge hit in the new Age of Ignorance. Post Truth means those in power can use any lie that suits their preferred narrative, and call it fact. MAGA apologists love such fictional facts.
It’s been recognized as a common outcome historically, where we humans are concerned, people often fail to recognize what’s happening at the time it’s happening.
www.nbcnews.com
A key voice behind both the Twitter Files and the USAID conspiracy theories is Mike Benz, a former Trump administration official-turned-conservative researcher whom Musk has promoted and interacted with on X more than 40 times in the past week.
Mike Benz, a former alt-right vlogger, has been attacking USAID for years.Obtained by NBC News
Benz, a self-described cybersecurity expert who briefly worked as an assistant deputy for international communications for the State Department under Trump, started tweeting about USAID in 2022. He framed its funding of a handbook on disinformation from a nonprofit democracy consortium as evidence of an agency-run global internet censorship program.
Over the next two years, he posted waves of tweets and dozens of hours of video presentations marked with highlighted texts and red notes, scribbles, circles and arrows, flicking at a sprawling narrative of USAID as a covert operations division of the CIA in which staff members sought to enrich themselves, spread leftist ideology at home and abroad and harm Trump. The theory alleged that USAID was behind the mass censorship of Americans, as well as global efforts to manipulate social media, rig elections and quash dissent.
“Benz runs the same playbook every time,” said Renee DiResta, an associate research professor at Georgetown University and author of a book about how fringe creators, including Benz, increasingly influence public opinion. “He picks a villain, pretends it has ties to the CIA or some 'deep state' and acts as if he has inside knowledge when he’s really just decontextualizing public content. The remarkable thing is that the masters of the universe seem to repeatedly fall for it.”
It’s been recognized as a common outcome historically, where we humans are concerned, people often fail to recognize what’s happening at the time it’s happening.
How Elon Musk boosted false USAID conspiracy theories to shut down global aid
Musk drove fringe viewpoints on USAID into the mainstream on X as the Trump administration halted the humanitarian relief agency’s work.
www.nbcnews.com
A key voice behind both the Twitter Files and the USAID conspiracy theories is Mike Benz, a former Trump administration official-turned-conservative researcher whom Musk has promoted and interacted with on X more than 40 times in the past week.
Benz, a self-described cybersecurity expert who briefly worked as an assistant deputy for international communications for the State Department under Trump, started tweeting about USAID in 2022. He framed its funding of a handbook on disinformation from a nonprofit democracy consortium as evidence of an agency-run global internet censorship program.
Over the next two years, he posted waves of tweets and dozens of hours of video presentations marked with highlighted texts and red notes, scribbles, circles and arrows, flicking at a sprawling narrative of USAID as a covert operations division of the CIA in which staff members sought to enrich themselves, spread leftist ideology at home and abroad and harm Trump. The theory alleged that USAID was behind the mass censorship of Americans, as well as global efforts to manipulate social media, rig elections and quash dissent.
“Benz runs the same playbook every time,” said Renee DiResta, an associate research professor at Georgetown University and author of a book about how fringe creators, including Benz, increasingly influence public opinion. “He picks a villain, pretends it has ties to the CIA or some 'deep state' and acts as if he has inside knowledge when he’s really just decontextualizing public content. The remarkable thing is that the masters of the universe seem to repeatedly fall for it.”
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Yes, and just like what Trump has done with the 2020 election and Jan 6 martyrs, he and his cultists are priming the country for dictatorship. If we remember, it was merely humoring him after election night. That turned into him spewing lies about election fraud. Then the Jan 6 Insurrectionists turned into victims and they sang the national anthem. Then he promised to pardon them. And then he did pardon them and it was a surprise to none of us. You can see it right now with how they’re spinning Musk’s gutting of the federal government. “In order to rid the government of corruption, we must do xyz….”
And we know to a certain extent what that will entail:
1. Rule by executive order
2. Violations of laws and court orders from judges
3. Running roughshod over the media and threatening them and their parent corporations. Abusing social media to shape and mold reality, just as other dictators have controlled media outlets in the past.
4. Packing courts and law enforcement agencies with loyalists under the guise of “rooting out corruption.” Actual investigators, like those who investigated Jan 6, have been fired. Loyalists are replacing them. This is already happening.
5. Finding reasons to de-legitimize opposition and control elections. Just like in Hungary and Russia, they’ll still have elections. But opposition forces always fight an uphill battle with (made up) accusuations of corruption, gerrymandering, and control over election outcomes.
I really fear that we might’ve seen the last free and fair election in America in a long time. Just imagine what the 26 midterms will be like with Musk gaslighting the nation with made up conspiracies against Democrats, corporations eager for tax cuts (and afraid of retribution from Trump), and law enforcement headed by the likes of Patel and Bondi. We don’t think they’ll find reasons to launch investigations into GOP’s political enemies?
The GOP and its propaganda apparatus (that very much includes Musk and dodge) is priming this country for authoritarianism. In fact, it might already be too late to avoid it. Americans probably shouldn’t have put the mastermind behind Jan 6 back into office.
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