Trump Dictatorship and All Things Politics

[Al-O-Meter]

All trump needs to do to get that dude back in the US is make a phone call.

Yes. That is how it works when you win the election to become the US President. You get that power. Where you lefties go off the rails is in cheering for an unelected lower court judge to usurp the power of the US President. She didn't win the election to become US President and her efforts to pretend she can seize control of the Executive Branch marks her as someone who shouldn't even have the power of a lower court judge.

 

[fishonjazz]

That would be admitting he was wrong and in Trump's twisted psychopathy that's the worst possible thing he could ever do. If admitting he was wrong on adding up the check at dinner would immediately save the lives of his own grandchildren he would let them die.

Exactly. Its very easy for trump to do the right thing.

 

[BabyPeterzz]

The Roberts Court is siding with the US Constitution, and so is the Trump administration.

The weirdest aspect to this story is how Trump critics are cheering for authoritarianism, and against the rule of law, without realizing it.

The US Constitution is very clear on the separations of powers. The Judicial Branch, including the Supreme Court, has no say over foreign affairs. It is not in the court's allotted powers. Per the US Constitution, they have no voice on such matters. Trump critics want unelected judges to exercise power over Trump's handling of foreign affairs, and that is what makes Trump critics champions of authoritarianism. They want judges to be all powerful rulers who are immune from elections and can dictate anything.

The El Salvador citizen currently sitting in an El Salvador prison broke US law when he crossed the border illegally. The Executive Branch has the constitutional power to expel the criminal foreign national. Garcia's terrorist gang involvement is irrelevant, and a catch-22. The reason there was a prohibition against deporting Garcia to El Salvador was because there was a rival gang who tries to kill members of Garcia's gang. If Garcia isn't a member of the gang then he can be deported to El Salvador, and if he is a member of the gang then he's a designated terrorist who should be deported. Either way, the correct and lawful course of action is to deport the criminal foreign national. None of that is authoritarian.

It would be dangerously authoritarian for the judicial branch to order the executive branch to go overseas to El Salvador, take possession of the citizen of El Salvador, and bring him to the United States. Such an order would violate limits on jurisdiction and separation of powers which is why Robert's court didn't order that. Robert's order isn't a violation of the US Constitution, and Trump's administration doing nothing more than offering a free airline ticket back to the US if Garcia shows up at the US embassy in El Salvador to claim it also isn't a violation of the US Constitution or Robert's court order.

STOP CHEERLEADING FOR AUTHORITARIANISM!!!!

I was going to respond to later posts, but they’re rooted in a crucial misunderstanding of the issue. This action has to be a “foreign affairs” issue, whatever the **** that means, in order for all the misguided and incorrect posts to be relevant.

It’s a constitutional issue and a human rights issue. Start there and then tell us what is correct here cause right now your argument is built on ********.


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[Zombie]

All trump needs to do to get that dude back in the US is make a phone call.

At this point I’m worried that the phone call would need to be made to a necromancer.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

has to be a “foreign affairs” issue, whatever the **** that means, in order for all the misguided and incorrect posts to be relevant.

Correct. What a foreign sovereign nation does to their own citizen is a foreign affair. What El Salvador does or does not do with El Salvadorian nationals is not within the purview of a lower court judge in the United States. A judge here in the United States can rule the deportation was illegal and levy a sanction, such as a fine, but is constitutionally barred from issuing court orders that direct foreign affairs. Doing so would "exceed the District Court’s authority" as SCOTUS succinctly put it. That a lower court judge in the United States is clearly trying to usurp power beyond the limits placed on the power granted to her by her office should terrify you, and be cause for her removal from the bench. Do not fall into the trap of letting bad actors train all your focus on Trump so they can break laws for there may come a day where you desperately need the guardrails to hold.

 

[fishonjazz]

Van Hollen denied meeting, phone call with Abrego Garcia during El Salvador visit

The Salvadoran government on Wednesday rebuffed Sen. Chris Van Hollen’s (D-Md.) request to meet or speak with a wrongfully deported Maryland man, the senator said, accusing the Trump administration and others of lying about Kilmar Abrego Garcia’s gang ties. Van Hollen said Salvadoran Vice...

www.yahoo.com

The Salvadoran government on Wednesday rebuffed Sen. Chris Van Hollen’s (D-Md.) request to meet or speak with a wrongfully deported Maryland man, the senator said, accusing the Trump administration and others of lying about Kilmar Abrego Garcia’s gang ties.

Van Hollen said Salvadoran Vice President Félix Ulloa told him the government had no information connecting Abrego Garcia to MS-13 but could not accommodate a visit to the notorious CECOT prison, known by its acronym in Spanish.

“If the government of El Salvador has no evidence that he was part of MS-13, why is El Salvador continuing to hold him in CECOT?” Van Hollen asked.

“And his answer was that the Trump administration is paying the government of El Salvador to keep him at CECOT.”

Van Hollen also accused the Trump administration of lying about Abrego Garcia’s background.

“I want to emphasize that President Trump and our Attorney General Pam Bondi and the vice president of the United States are lying when they say that Abrego Garcia has been charged with a crime or was part of MS-13. That is a lie,” he said.

“This is a lie to cover up what they did.”

Van Hollen noted that an immigration judge barred Abrego Garcia from being deported to El Salvador, given credible claims he would be targeted by gang violence. His family fled El Salvador when another gang, Barrio 18, repeatedly targeted their pupusa business for money. Van Hollen noted that the protection from removal was issued in 2019, under the first Trump administration, and that prosecutors at the time declined to appeal that decision.

“The Trump administration needs to obey the law, but I’m also asking the government of El Salvador, and the president and vice president of El Salvador, not to keep a man who was illegally abducted from the United States and charged with no crime to remain in CECOT when, as a sovereign country, they have the power to let him go and let him go now.”

Ya, Im thinking this dude might be dead

 

[fishonjazz]

And another one: https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-admin-deports-teen-no-044238859.html

Wilmer Gutiérrez last saw his son the morning of Feb. 24. Later that day, his nephew called to tell him that 19-year-old Merwil Gutiérrez had been arrested just steps from their shared apartment in the Bronx. “The officers grabbed him and two other boys right at the entrance to our building,” he recalled. “One said, ‘No, he’s not the one,’ like they were looking for someone else. But the other said, ‘Take him anyway.’”

He has no criminal record, neither in Venezuela nor the U.S, per the outlet, and does not have any tattoos, which is one of the criteria ICE officers use to claim migrants are members of the Tren de Aragua gang.

William Parra, an attorney at Inmigración Al Día, the law firm representing his case, says Merwil’s detention was unjustified as he has an immigration court case pending with his father and was taking the proper steps to formalize their situation. “Merwil was detained for hanging out with friends and was at the wrong place at the wrong time. ICE was not looking for him, nor is there any evidence whatsoever that Merwil was in any gang,” said Parra.

Wilmer has struggled to understand why his teenage son was sent to El Salvador’s Terrorism Confinement Center (CECOT), a mega-prison tied to allegations of human rights abuses. “I feel like my son was kidnapped,” said Wilmer. “I’ve spent countless hours searching for him, going from one precinct to another, speaking with numerous people who kept referring me elsewhere. Yet, after all this, no one has given me any information or provided a single document about his case.

“I could have understood if he’d been sent back to Venezuela,” he said. “But why to a foreign country he’s never even been to?”

CBS’ 60 Minutes released a report that found 75 percent of the Venezuelans — 179 men — deported by the Trump administration in March had no apparent criminal record. The migrants — whom the administration claimed had ties to the Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua — were sent to El Salvador without any due process.

The Department of Homeland Security later admitted it had wrongfully deported Kilmar Abrego Garcia, an innocent man with protected status, to CECOT due to an “administrative error.” Despite being ordered by the Supreme Court to facilitate Abrego Garcia’s return to the U.S., the Trump administration has openly disregarded the ruling.

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Yeah, the dad perfectly captured my confusion: "I could have understood if he’d been sent back to Venezuela. But why to a foreign country he’s never even been to?”
This makes zero sense. He was pursuing legal status and had broken no law. If Trump wanted to terminate his legal status and deport him to Venezuela, I might disagree, but at least this would be justifiable. However, sending him to prison in an unrelated third country makes zero sense. What is he being imprisoned for?

 

[fishonjazz]

Americans want more U.S. factory jobs—as long as they don’t have to work them

“Such jobs can’t find enough interested Americans to fill them.”

www.yahoo.com

A chart that went viral on multiple social media platforms over the weekend highlights this major tension when it comes to reshoring factory jobs: While Americans say they want more manufacturing back in the U.S., they do not personally believe they'd be better off working one of them.

The graphic, made by the Financial Times and based on a 2024 survey from the Cato Institute, shows that while 80% of Americans believe the country would be better off with more manufacturing jobs, just 25% believe they would individually be better off working in a factory.

Grabow went on to note that as of May 2024, there were around 600,000 open positions in manufacturing (there's almost 500,000 open today, according to the St. Louis Federal Reserve), so there isn't exactly a shortage of roles out there. Instead, there is a disconnect between how Americans in general think of manufacturing and how they view it for themselves. This is one reason why the National Association of Manufacturers and the former Secretary of the Navy under President Joe Biden both called for increased immigration, Grabow notes.

"Such jobs can’t find enough interested Americans to fill them," he wrote.

Manufacturing workers themselves report "markedly" lower personal satisfaction with their jobs than other workers, according to the Pew Research Center. They also report less satisfaction with their pay, health insurance, and other benefits, and flexibility of their work hours.

 

[fishonjazz]

Budget cuts and bathrooms: An ongoing struggle at US national parks

Federal officials have ordered national parks to keep amenities open, even though staffing remains an issue.

www.yahoo.com

Struggling to find a restroom at some National Park Service sites this spring? You're in good company.

Need relief in Utah’s Arches National Park? Some toilets are closed. Visiting King’s Canyon in California? Better hope it’s not a Tuesday. Need to make a pit stop at Maryland's Greenbelt Park? That’s a no-go.

Citing staffing issues as a result of President Donald Trump‘s budget cuts, buyouts and layoffs across the National Park Service, multiple national parks have closed their toilets and visitor centers.

Former Interior Secretary Ken Salazar echoed her concerns.

"When you talk about the cuts with seasonal labor that keeps the bathrooms at our national parks clean or provide services to the millions of visitors who come to those places, it's a real thing and it's going to affect a lot of national parks, especially in rural America, where the tourism that comes in through those gateway communities to the national parks are going to be very much affected," Salazar told USA TODAY.

 

[BabyPeterzz]

Correct. What a foreign sovereign nation does to their own citizen is a foreign affair. What El Salvador does or does not do with El Salvadorian nationals is not within the purview of a lower court judge in the United States. A judge here in the United States can rule the deportation was illegal and levy a sanction, such as a fine, but is constitutionally barred from issuing court orders that direct foreign affairs. Doing so would "exceed the District Court’s authority" as SCOTUS succinctly put it. That a lower court judge in the United States is clearly trying to usurp power beyond the limits placed on the power granted to her by her office should terrify you, and be cause for her removal from the bench. Do not fall into the trap of letting bad actors train all your focus on Trump so they can break laws for there may come a day where you desperately need the guardrails to hold.

Oh I know of the excuse being used for sending a guy who did nothing wrong, take him from his family, and send him to a literal gulag. Look it up. A US congressman was denied access to him to prove he’s alive. He may be dead. His wife widowed and his kid loses his dad forever.

Tell me why I should let you distract me with your ******** to protect Trump again??


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[Eminence]

And another one: https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-admin-deports-teen-no-044238859.html

Wilmer Gutiérrez last saw his son the morning of Feb. 24. Later that day, his nephew called to tell him that 19-year-old Merwil Gutiérrez had been arrested just steps from their shared apartment in the Bronx. “The officers grabbed him and two other boys right at the entrance to our building,” he recalled. “One said, ‘No, he’s not the one,’ like they were looking for someone else. But the other said, ‘Take him anyway.’”

He has no criminal record, neither in Venezuela nor the U.S, per the outlet, and does not have any tattoos, which is one of the criteria ICE officers use to claim migrants are members of the Tren de Aragua gang.

William Parra, an attorney at Inmigración Al Día, the law firm representing his case, says Merwil’s detention was unjustified as he has an immigration court case pending with his father and was taking the proper steps to formalize their situation. “Merwil was detained for hanging out with friends and was at the wrong place at the wrong time. ICE was not looking for him, nor is there any evidence whatsoever that Merwil was in any gang,” said Parra.

Wilmer has struggled to understand why his teenage son was sent to El Salvador’s Terrorism Confinement Center (CECOT), a mega-prison tied to allegations of human rights abuses. “I feel like my son was kidnapped,” said Wilmer. “I’ve spent countless hours searching for him, going from one precinct to another, speaking with numerous people who kept referring me elsewhere. Yet, after all this, no one has given me any information or provided a single document about his case.

“I could have understood if he’d been sent back to Venezuela,” he said. “But why to a foreign country he’s never even been to?”

CBS’ 60 Minutes released a report that found 75 percent of the Venezuelans — 179 men — deported by the Trump administration in March had no apparent criminal record. The migrants — whom the administration claimed had ties to the Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua — were sent to El Salvador without any due process.

The Department of Homeland Security later admitted it had wrongfully deported Kilmar Abrego Garcia, an innocent man with protected status, to CECOT due to an “administrative error.” Despite being ordered by the Supreme Court to facilitate Abrego Garcia’s return to the U.S., the Trump administration has openly disregarded the ruling.

From the comments:
Yeah, the dad perfectly captured my confusion: "I could have understood if he’d been sent back to Venezuela. But why to a foreign country he’s never even been to?”
This makes zero sense. He was pursuing legal status and had broken no law. If Trump wanted to terminate his legal status and deport him to Venezuela, I might disagree, but at least this would be justifiable. However, sending him to prison in an unrelated third country makes zero sense. What is he being imprisoned for?

Current 'conservatives' seem to be of the opinion that if a migrant or other visitor in our country is accused of anything Donald has the right to beat them to death in the street, though I think they take more joy in this prolonged execution.

Truly a pathetic lack of morals.

 

[Sardines]

Oh I know of the excuse being used for sending a guy who did nothing wrong, take him from his family, and send him to a literal gulag. Look it up. A US congressman was denied access to him to prove he’s alive. He may be dead. His wife widowed and his kid loses his dad forever.

Tell me why I should let you distract me with your ******** to protect Trump again??


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He seems to be saying that voters voted for this, so STFU because this is like snuff porn for MAGA-tards and Trump is just giving them what they want.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

Oh I know of the excuse being used for sending a guy who did nothing wrong

I have no idea who you are talking about. I thought we were talking about the guy who illegally entered the United States and received years of due process on the tax payer's dime. Who is the 'did nothing wrong' guy?

A US congressman was denied access to him to prove he’s alive.

Even trying could be seen as a violation of the Logan Act. The Executive Branch has all the authority in dealing with foreign affairs. Lower court judges have zero, and US Congressman have zero. If they want to be the US President then run for the office and win the election.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

He seems to be saying that voters voted for this, so STFU because this is like snuff porn for MAGA-tards and Trump is just giving them what they want.

That isn't what I'm saying at all.

Back in the 1970's, the ACLU fought for the right of some neo-Nazi group to parade through a Jewish neighborhood. The ACLU didn't do that because they liked neo-Nazis. The ACLU cherished the first amendment and its protections of speech, even the speech of neo-Nazis. It wasn't the neo-Nazis that were worth fighting for. It was the freedom of speech that was worth fighting for.

I'm not happy the El Salvadorian illegal alien is in an El Salvador prison. I'm not happy he was deported there despite there being a withholding order. None of that is what I am championing. The point I am making is that even though the El Salvadorian citizen was wrongfully deported, THAT DOES NOT JUSTIFY THROWING CONSTITUTIONAL LIMITS ON POWER INTO THE GARBAGE CAN. A lower court judge does not have the power to direct foreign affairs, and how noble or just her motivation doesn't matter. Judges are very powerful but they are not emperors who can usurp whatever power they deem necessary. The Executive Branch ignoring a judge operating way outside her scope of powers is not a constitutional crisis. It is the constitution working exactly how it is supposed to work.

If you want to argue that Trump is a douche who is pushing the limits of Presidential power, I won't argue against it.
If you want to argue the Trump administration did something illegal when they deported that El Salvador guy, I won't argue against it.
If you want to argue that Trump's wrongdoing justifies your side ignoring constitutional limits on power, then I don't think you have any problem at all with dictatorship. You just want your side to be dictator. I don't want either side to be dictator.

 

[enchilada_style]

Correct. What a foreign sovereign nation does to their own citizen is a foreign affair. What El Salvador does or does not do with El Salvadorian nationals is not within the purview of a lower court judge in the United States. A judge here in the United States can rule the deportation was illegal and levy a sanction, such as a fine, but is constitutionally barred from issuing court orders that direct foreign affairs. Doing so would "exceed the District Court’s authority" as SCOTUS succinctly put it. That a lower court judge in the United States is clearly trying to usurp power beyond the limits placed on the power granted to her by her office should terrify you, and be cause for her removal from the bench. Do not fall into the trap of letting bad actors train all your focus on Trump so they can break laws for there may come a day where you desperately need the guardrails to hold.

You attempt intellectual trumpism the same way JD Vance does. Good luck with that. It’s still nonsense.

 

[Eminence]

'It's legal'

For your sake I hope us atheists are right and there's no afterlife.

 

[Fosto]

And now Trump is trying to remove Harvard's tax exempt status for daring to challenge his bullying. It is illegal of course, not that it matters when you're a king.

26 U.S. Code § 7217 - Prohibition on executive branch influence over taxpayer audits and other investigations

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[Deleted member 365]

Disappearing those deemed “undesirable” by the ruling leader and/or party violating the law and justifying such illegal activity as being, “the will of the people” is the defining characteristic of fascism. Some of you are revealing your own degenerate selves. Wanna know whose side you’d be in Pinchocet’s Chile or Nazi Germany? We’re seeing it. The funny thing is, you don’t think this can happen to you and your tribe? As if you’ll always be the one wearing the boot?

 

[Deleted member 365]

Like I’ve been saying for a while now, those who continue to support Trump are either:

1. Dumber than rocks
2. ****** people

It’s becoming increasingly clear that it’s more the latter than the former. You’re just a ****** human being who makes this place worse.

 

[Deleted member 365]

You attempt intellectual trumpism the same way JD Vance does. Good luck with that. It’s still nonsense.

He’s such a disgusting pig.