Tremendous Upside
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Clearly a future 3&D guy
How bad/good is Cody Williams?
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Basketball Novice
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I don't know what yall are talking about with the last game. He came on late with alot of buckets when the game was tight at the end. If you always look for negatives, you certainly will find them but I thought last game was a good game from Cody. I hope he can carry that end of the game aggressiveness into the regular season.
Still trying to decide how much of the hesitation is innate and how much is lack of experience. I don’t care if fails, he just needs to keep attacking.
Basketball Novice
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Think he reminds me a bit of Andrew Wiggins with his habit of being passive. Not that he has Wiggins athleticism but Wiggins also has the tendency to disappear in games.
Doc Cherno
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He’s got more tools than a lot of other projects. I think he’ll be in a good place to work on his game more this year so I’m withholding judgment until next June. I’m just glad we picked a lane and can now see if there’s any future in it.
I'm concerned that he doesn't have a consistent energy or effort level. He shows up to make a small flurry of nice plays, and then he disappears for two days. The other thing is that his offensive game really is predicated on driving, and he hasn't been able to do that against 7-foot NBA bigs unless he gets them isolated on the perimeter.
Tremendous Upside
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Just checking in. Still bad.
You’re such a miserable ***-for-brains
Jazz have let Cody shoot a few midrange jumpers in Summer League, and he's looked pretty good shooting them. It would be nice if that becomes a part of his game longterm. It would mean he can get open shots in the half court without just standing in the corner.
Cody needs to be able to get 8 3PAs off every night and make 3 of them (37.5%).
George W
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I disagree a bit -- in my opinion you can always measure the quality of a shooter by what his misses look like.
Look at Curry's 3PAs that miss -- **** looks like it's gonna go in, and when it doesn't it still looks like it's gonna go in. Good back spin, in and out, etc.
Cody Williams has some of the most grotesque misses I've seen in Jazz uniform from a perimeter player. Barely grazes rim, weird ****ing bounces, occasional airball, and no consistent pattern between them. And yes, these have been happening this year in summer league too.
The one thing I noticed in this last game: he realized that his matchup simply couldn't guard him -- it took him a few quarters to figure it out but he finally did, and he was taking it to him. Imo the closest he's looked to an NBA player since he's been drafted.
Remains to be seen if this will ever be replicated in the regular season. At this point I just hope it continues to happen in summer league and preseason
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IIRC, Cody looked great in Summer League last year, and even his 3 looked decent. He is stronger this year, but not sure his overall game looks any better. Hopefully moving many of the vets puts him in a position to gain some confidence.
I don't give much weight to summer league, but I am not seeing the improvement I was hoping we'd see.
Doc Cherno
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We can ONLY play Cody in the 4th quarters. He’s functionally stoned until then.
Dude is one trenchcoat away from being a national news story.
homeytennis
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Cody at least wants to play Summer League. All our rookies are injured. What's up with the Jazz conditioning and training? You get in shape to play sports. You don't play sports to get in shape.
All we can ask for his progress and he seems to be progressing.
Rookies go through the whole pre-draft process which is pretty grueling (though Ace didnt actually work out for anyone) then jump right into SL. Makes sense they would miss more games than 2nd year players.
Based on what evidence? In my experience, the most miserable people on this board (who, for example, post the kind of crud we've been seeing about CW) are the hardest to get rid of.