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If the Jazz are better than expected it's because...

Pick the most likely reason for the Jazz to crush their win total expectation.

  • Lauri has his best season in a Jazz Uniform

    Votes: 7 9.6%

  • Our Center rotation of Kessler/Nurkic is very good

    Votes: 2 2.7%

  • Will Hardy is coach of the year

    Votes: 3 4.1%

  • Ace and or WCJ are much better than typical rookies

    Votes: 29 39.7%

  • Keyonte and or Collier have a glow up

    Votes: 13 17.8%

  • Brice and or Cody have a glow up

    Votes: 2 2.7%

  • Hendricks and or Flip have a glow up

    Votes: 11 15.1%

  • Niang and or Anderson are the ultimate glue guys

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Front Office Reasons

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other (post comment)

    Votes: 6 8.2%
  • Total voters
    73
Key and Clayton, Jr. were both pleasant surprises last night. I’m not worried about the Jazz big situation/lineup, but guard play will either make or break this team.
 
Elizah Huge said:
Nailed it
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Almost. They have both been even better than expected.
I have been having a decent run lately. People were down on AJ Dybantsa and I kept pointing out how efficient he was and that he was simply not getting a ton of volume/usage. Then BYU gives him huge volume and usage in the second half of their game against Clemson and suddenly many people became really high on him. In the past I had said that I could see Kessler developing a three point shot and then this season, in a very small sample size, it looked like it was coming along. Vegas had BYU football winning 6.5 games and I lol'd at that pretty hard and they are currently at 11 wins and will likely win 12 games (I have picked every game correct for their season this year). I also lol'd at vegas having the jazz winning 17 games or something this season. Was also pretty certain that Utahs coach was done at utah before it was announced.

I dont know much about a lot of teams/players/sports but im a pretty hardcore jazz and byu fan and usually know what im talking about in relation to those particular teams.
 
Here's what I would attribute the increased winning to:

- Lauri playing every game and lots of minutes. I wouldn't say this is his best year. Years 1&2 were higher in quality, but he's playing more minutes than ever and that's leading to more W's.
- Key's growth.
- No tank commanders getting major minutes (Cody and TH).
- Depth. Goes hand in hand with the previous point. Most minutes are going to non terrible players.
 
key and lauri having their best seasons is of course the number 1 reason, but svi has been better than expected, flip, love and nurkic as well, clayton, ace and collier holding their own. basically, everybody with the exception of sensabaugh and hendricks (maybe Ace as well, tbh), has been better than expected.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
key and lauri having their best seasons is of course the number 1 reason, but svi has been better than expected, flip, love and nurkic as well, clayton, ace and collier holding their own. basically, everybody with the exception of sensabaugh and hendricks (maybe Ace as well, tbh), has been better than expected.
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Hard to really say Nurk/Love are making the Jazz better than expected. Both have been absolutely terrible at points, but they have both had moments where their skills have helped. They are the main reasons the Jazz are terrible at defense and I think the Jazz would win more with whoever we considered to be the most average backup 5 in the NBA.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Hard to really say Nurk/Love are making the Jazz better than expected. Both have been absolutely terrible at points, but they have both had moments where their skills have helped. They are the main reasons the Jazz are terrible at defense and I think the Jazz would win more with whoever we considered to be the most average backup 5 in the NBA.
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Nobody expected them to be an average backup 5 though. Nurk are Love are better than what people considered them to be before the season. Neither is good, and but they were still underrated.
 
I looked at BBall ref today and our expected record is 7-17. Maybe that we had the huge blowouts but also think we have been winning too many close games for a team of our quality.
 
KqWIN said:
Wrt tank commanders, the difference between 1k minutes of Cody and 1k minutes of replacement level (the level you can expect a from a G-League callup) is about 3 wins a season.
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That's the thing that drives me crazy... we have the hammer (probably two of them until Taylor shakes the rust) and we refuse to use it. All while picking up his option for next year when we were actively keeping cap space open.

Both guys up with the varsity team. Nurk resting... maybe... just maybe they start the full tank now?
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
That's the thing that drives me crazy... we have the hammer (probably two of them until Taylor shakes the rust) and we refuse to use it. All while picking up his option for next year when we were actively keeping cap space open.

Both guys up with the varsity team. Nurk resting... maybe... just maybe they start the full tank now?
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I'm trying to come up with a creative name for the Ainge pivot. The Ainge pivot is when one of Ryan Smith's dear friends swallows their pride, stops f'ing around and does what he should have done yesterday. I don't know when the Ainge pivot will happen this year. It's already too late, but I do have faith it will happen at some point.
 
KqWIN said:
I'm trying to come up with a creative name for the Ainge pivot. The Ainge pivot is when one of Ryan Smith's dear friends swallows their pride, stops f'ing around and does what he should have done yesterday. I don't know when the Ainge pivot will happen this year. It's already too late, but I do have faith it will happen at some point.
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I don't even think its too later per se. I just think it has to happen now to get to an ideal range. I don't have a name for it but I am finalizing an analogy that will likely be dropped on a pod... a lot of the stuff fits.
 
Do we really think Lauri has been playing at his best, or is he just playing more minutes? I actually think that his heavier minutes load has dropped his performance on a per/poss basis. He's still playing great, but there's also been moments where he looks a little run down. Numbers certainly back this up.

With that said, by playing 23 of 24 games he's on pace to provide more winning value than he has over the course of the season.
 
KqWIN said:
Do we really think Lauri has been playing at his best, or is he just playing more minutes? I actually think that his heavier minutes load has dropped his performance on a per/poss basis. He's still playing great, but there's also been moments where he looks a little run down. Numbers certainly back this up.

With that said, by playing 23 of 24 games he's on pace to provide more winning value than he has over the course of the season.
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I think so. If you discard the defense. His first year here he was a better two way player but I think this is the best he's been offensively.

There is however like one forced shot per game that I would love for him to eliminate at some point. Its usually a rushed three off a screen that hits with a thud... you can see it as soon as it happens though.
 
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