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anybody miss Jeffersuck?

SaltyDawg said:
Because he was the same age, same height, much more athletic, much stronger, in much better shape, and had just lead the Big 10 in scoring.

Jefferson was fat, had no college experience, slow, and unathletic.
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Jefferson averaged like 40,20, and 8 in HS. The Jazz just didn't want to draft the HS player. Jefferson clearly had more potential (because you can obviously see Jefferson is the better player, that is not a product of being developed, he just had more ability).
 
Bodhi said:
Ahh, I see, so I'll cross off Utah, Toronto, Dallas and the coaching staff of Jersey Humphries first few years as horrible big man developers. Noted. Now, onto the other 26 teams, they all must be churning out great big men by the hundreds, no?
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I don't know about by the hundreds. But I know any of them would be foolish to interrupt the obvious progress their 2 young bigs were making working with a vet. Especially if it wasn't hurting them financially to let it continue.
 
Bodhi said:
Ahh, I see, so I'll cross off Utah, Toronto, Dallas and the coaching staff of Jersey Humphries first few years as horrible big man developers. Noted. Now, onto the other 26 teams, they all must be churning out great big men by the hundreds, no?
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Cross off Chicago because they couldn't develop Tyson Chandler. He didn't flourish until he got to New Orleans.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Cross off Chicago because they couldn't develop Tyson Chandler. He didn't flourish until he got to New Orleans.
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Mike Brown is obviously a better big man developer than Phil Jackson too, as evidenced by how bad he was holding back Bynum.
 
SaltyDawg said:
Put me on ignore. Problem solved.
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Not really. You kind of poison to every discussion you're a part of. You've thought that about as through as most of the stances you publicly take.

And I don't even terribly dislike you, and sometimes I even agree with some of your points (to a point).
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Jefferson averaged like 40,20, and 8 in HS. The Jazz just didn't want to draft the HS player. Jefferson clearly had more potential (because you can obviously see Jefferson is the better player, that is not a product of being developed, he just had more ability).
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High school in Mississippi is not the Big 10.

What "ability" does Jefferson have that Humphries doesn't? His footwork. And he did not have that footwork his first few years in the league.

Humphries clearly had more potential at the time. Jefferson is the better player right now because Humphries never reached his potential, while Jefferson reached his.

Again, Jefferson was fresh out of high school but they were the same age. 1 was fat, slow, and weak but dominated Mississippi high school. The other was strong, athletic, built like a tank, and had dominated the Big 10. Same age, same height. One obviously had more potential, and it wasn't Jefferson.
 
Imagine Bynum with a $14mil a year big man coach. First ever player to average 50pts and 50 boards a game? I think so.........I think so...... (what's that you say? Your mind was just blown? Blame Al Jefferson for your mindgasm.)
 
Bodhi said:
Mike Brown is obviously a better big man developer than Phil Jackson too, as evidenced by how bad he was holding back Bynum.
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Explain this please. I never said anyone was holding anybody back.

But you can bet if Jackson or Brown had a 19 or 20 year old Bynum showing obvious improvements he learned from a vet on the team, they wouldn't rush to get rid of that vet (assuming it wasn't hurting the cap and he was a good character guy and all that).
 
NUMBERICA said:
Not really. You kind of poison to every discussion you're a part of. You've thought that about as through as most of the stances you publicly take.

And I don't even terribly dislike you, and sometimes I even agree with some of your points (to a point).
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Oh well. Such is life. Put me on ignore or deal with it.
 
Bodhi said:
Imagine Bynum with a $14mil a year big man coach. First ever player to average 50pts and 50 boards a game? I think so.........I think so...... (what's that you say? Your mind was just blown? Blame Al Jefferson for your mindgasm.)
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Or you could say, "How good would Bynum be if he had spent his first few years practicing against and getting 1 on 1 tutoring from Olajuwon in his prime?" Or, "How good would Duncan have been if he had spent his first few years practicing against and getting 1 on 1 tutoring from David Robinson?"

We already know the answer to that second one.
 
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