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Waiting until all the facts are known before making my mind up is "incredibly incorrect" and "quite stupid"?? I'm at a loss for words...

The guy is 18. He bought into the liberal media template. Give him a few years to get some real life experience.
 
I am still 18, the hardships of the world haven't ruined my utopian perception of life just yet :)

You said it, man.

I used to be in your shoes, just like most of us. Life is a bitch, and if you're not ready for it, like most of us weren't, it will kick your ***. Take my advice and try to savor and hold on to your "utopian perception" of life, because life really is awesome, we just let the little things block it out and we forget.

Man, if only I was 18 again, the things I would do...
 
You said it, man.

I used to be in your shoes, just like most of us. Life is a bitch, and if you're not ready for it, like most of us weren't, it will kick your ***. Take my advice and try to savor and hold on to your "utopian perception" of life, because life really is awesome, we just let the little things block it out and we forget.

Man, if only I was 18 again, the things I would do...

and the things I would change...
 
and the things I would change...

I thought about that, but in all honesty, I wouldn't change much. If I changed too much, I wouldn't have my family that I've got right now -- and I wouldn't trade them for anything.

But oh, I would do a great many things...
 
I thought about that, but in all honesty, I wouldn't change much. If I changed too much, I wouldn't have my family that I've got right now -- and I wouldn't trade them for anything.

But oh, I would do a great many things...

I'm in the exact same boat. I would do some things differently, but I am happy with where I am right now. I would not want to change things with my family and friends. I would definitely make different financial choices however.
 
I thought about that, but in all honesty, I wouldn't change much. If I changed too much, I wouldn't have my family that I've got right now -- and I wouldn't trade them for anything.

But oh, I would do a great many things...

Other than my 2 girls things are pretty ****ty.
 
Waiting until all the facts are known before making my mind up is "incredibly incorrect" and "quite stupid"?? I'm at a loss for words...

Sorry, the "superficial" tidbit is something that needs a little more emphasis. Again, I have read (some) of your points, and I consider them incorrect. As a result, I might even superficially conclude that it is a stupid notion; however, you are missing the jist of my post. My point is that despite what our perceptions of an idea are, we should not consider someone as dumb, incorrect, or a bad person, just because his views differ from ours. Your initial viewpoint of Zimmermann is something that I still consider incredibly incorrect. Is it though? To me, yes. To someone else? Probably not. Hell, you might even turn out to be right two weeks from now; my point is that we should not base our opinions on whether someone is a "good person" or not, depending on their viewpoints on controversial issues. Does that make any sense? Sorry if my post came-across as insulting, I might have worded it rather poorly
 
Oh Dalamon. Your pragmatism is a mistake. I love you, but you're way too tolerant. It's okay, you'll learn it the hard way. :)
 
Aren't muslims generally very anti-homosexual?

I don't think gays have it very good in Muslim countries.

Not moreso than Judaism or Christianity, I would say. Countries like Saudi Arabia are not great representations of Islam, as I have often said.
 
Oh Dalamon. Your pragmatism is a mistake. I love you, but you're way too tolerant. It's okay, you'll learn it the hard way. :)

Haha perhaps it is a mistake, but hey, I feel at peace by thinking in this manner moreso than any other philosophical approach to these sorts of issues. You're right, it might change; but for the time being, the status-quo works for me :)
 
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