Why is Marvin Starting Over Hayward?

[trigg3r]

if you replace williams with hayward.
hayward would suck.
jefferson would suck the life out of hayward

This. The starting lineup's offense is Big Al oriented. When you limit the number of touches Hayward gets, you minimize him as a player.

 

[Getting Traded]

The better question is: Why is Marvin playing at all? Hayward isn't the only SF on the team significantly better than him.

You got that right ... he has been a major disappointment.

 

[t.work]

I wouldn't mind seeing Carroll start at this point. I really like Hayward off of the bench.

 

[Borat]

This. The starting lineup's offense is Big Al oriented. When you limit the number of touches Hayward gets, you minimize him as a player.

David West averages one less FG attempt per game than Al, and Paul George still gets enough shot opportunities. My point here is that Hayward should start and play nearly entire game, leaving only 8-10 mins behind for Marvin or others at SF position. Yes, some of these minutes will be with Al, but much like Paul George seems to be able to get enough touches around David West (who shoots nearly identical # of shots as Al), I just don't think Hayward's performance would suffer. He needs more minutes, with or without Jefferson on the floor with him. Why these minutes go to Marvin, who stinks regardless who is on the floor with him is still a mystery to me.

 

[Borat]

You misunderstand - I'd rather give the SF minutes that Hayward doesn't play to Demarre. Check the numbers: The guy has been radically better than Marvin this season.

That is a fair point. I don't know if he was radically better, but this argument can certainly be made. The statement that Hayward is radically better than Marvin and deserves more minutes though I don't believe is even an argument that needs to be debated. It seems so obvious, that everyone but coach Corbin recognizes that. Why is it that when Hayward was not playing all that great as a starter, he was benched for an undersized SG, and Marvin who is playing a lot worse than even Hayward did back then, is not being benched by much improved Hayward, who is playing same position and has same size?

 

[The Norm]

I know it's not the end-all be-all, but just for information purposes, here's each player's PER:

Gordon Hayward: 16.85
Demarre Carroll: 16.75
Marvin Williams: 10.27

 

[berkkobe]

why is jefferson start over favors
why is millsap start over kanter
why is marvin start over hayward
why is chucker start over burks
why is jamaal tinsley start over trey burke

 

[Revolution 9]

because Corbin is an idiot. There is only so long you can try, and get a player going. Marvin just can't bring it game to game.
He's not a good starter in this league. I've been saying it for months now, make Marvin earn back his minutes.

 

[carolinajazz]

I am at loss trying to figure this out. Hayward has dramatically improved since, is much younger, and has tons more upside, in addition to already being significantly better than Marvin today. Why does Hayward come off the bench and is averaging less minutes than last year, when his competition is Marvin Williams, and Gordon is producing at similar rate as the guy drafted right after him - all star Paul George? What is the logic behind this?

....it's a racial thing. The better question is why are the Jazz even paying Williams at all???

 

[orangello]

Al Jefferson.

This.

 

[orangello]

if you replace williams with hayward.
hayward would suck.
Jefferson already sucked the life out of hayward

Fixed.

 

[orangello]

You misunderstand - I'd rather give the SF minutes that Hayward doesn't play to Demarre. Check the numbers: The guy has been radically better than Marvin this season.

This.