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I am all for debate, but especially when talking about peoples core beliefs it should be carried out with respect. I don't think that from his premise he respects atheists and from most of the replies from fellow atheists I don't think they respect him.
 
Beantown said:
I don't believe the Bible literally word for word. There are many stories in there that are meant as parables. But what I am saying is that there are many things in the Bible that can be proven historically speaking. Even historians agree there was probably a man named Jesus walking around with disciples preaching. Whether he was literally the Son of God has no importance on this debate.

The debate is I have had many discussions with atheists that totally disregard the Bible as pure fiction. But clearly mankind has been able to prove there are many fact based things in the Bible. The Bible has a huge historical record and is a very important document. So for atheists to laugh or disregard the Bible is hypocritical because it holds many historical truths.
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I have met Christians who are hypocritical ***bags. I would not call Christians hypocritical. The core problem that I have with your argument is that you are putting the words of a few individuals into the mouths of an entire community.
 
Beantown said:
I don't believe the Bible literally word for word. There are many stories in there that are meant as parables. But what I am saying is that there are many things in the Bible that can be proven historically speaking. Even historians agree there was probably a man named Jesus walking around with disciples preaching. Whether he was literally the Son of God has no importance on this debate.

The debate is I have had many discussions with atheists that totally disregard the Bible as pure fiction. But clearly mankind has been able to prove there are many fact based things in the Bible. The Bible has a huge historical record and is a very important document. So for atheists to laugh or disregard the Bible is hypocritical because it holds many historical truths.
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Listen to what I'm saying, please. No atheist who's ever lived, in the history of mankind, thinks the Bible is pure fiction in the way you describe. That's impossible. The Bible mentions cities like Damascus. Do you think atheists consider Damascus fictional? Do we not believe in the Romans? Jews? The historical events around the time of the Bible that the authors experienced first hand? We don't believe it has anything to do with any gods. That's all. We certainly understand that it is a book written by men who probably knew things that men tend to know.
 
Siro said:
Listen to what I'm saying, please. No atheist who's ever lived, in the history of mankind, thinks the Bible is pure fiction in the way you describe. That's impossible. The Bible mentions cities like Damascus. Do you think atheists consider Damascus fictional? Do we not believe in the Romans? Jews? The historical events around the time of the Bible that the authors experienced first hand? We don't believe it has anything to do with any gods. That's all. We certainly understand that it is a book written by men who probably knew things that men tend to know.
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Maybe I am talking to the wrong Atheists but most talk as if the Bible is heaping pile of ****.
 
Beantown said:
Maybe I am talking to the wrong Atheists but most talk as if the Bible is heaping pile of ****.
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These kind of generalizations about people is where you will find the birth of every form of discrimination.

You don't know most Atheists and because I don't fit your stereotype I'm "wrong" Atheist.
 
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heyhey said:
These kind of generalizations about people is where you will find the birth of every form of discrimination.
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Wow....... I'm not generalizing. I'm referring to MOST of the atheist I have talked to. I haven't spoken to every atheist in the world. Shocking I know.
 
Beantown said:
Maybe I am talking to the wrong Atheists but most talk as if the Bible is heaping pile of ****.
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You probably misunderstood. Many doubt the authenticity of much of the Bible's stories. I find the details about Jesus' life too reminiscent of the pagan beliefs of the area to be seriously considered as even partly true. But did a historical Jesus exist? It's possible. Some religious figures certainly did exist. While others didn't. Moses for example is very unlikely to have existed. However, David's existence is generally accepted.
 
Thinking The Bible is nothing but hogwash does not mean one doesn't recognize the historical "listings," if you will, of parts of the Old Testament.
 
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