Science vs. Creationism

[One Brow]

...then he could clearly point out that the creative “days” of Genesis does not disagree with any current Scientific guess as to how old a certain dinosaur bone or any bone of any animal might be!

However, the order of Genesis does disagree with the order we know various things appeared in.

 

[MVP]

...and I might add, NOT evolution! Adaptation does NOT change one specie into another specie or one "kind" to another "kind!"

It does result in new species. Again, I am asking what is London underground mosquito and how did it happen? Was it just "created" recently by your "intelligent designer" or it did evolve as separate species due to unique conditions in underground?
You should as well read about Lenski's long term experimental evolution project. Much more interesting then biblical myths about 900 year old people

https://myxo.css.msu.edu/ecoli/

 

[MVP]

Which is why, when I outlined the two choices, I limitied them to fish and amphibians. Amphibians diverged in the Devonian era. Which of the two outlined secnarios made sense to you?

They both have possibilities.
To me it makes more sense that it was primitive fish which developed this ability which was eventually passed on and survived in some amphibians. Other species developed similar but not the same estivation mechanisms as well. For example since reptiles are so much better adopted to survive without water their estivation does not require water preserving cocoon.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnQKnMZbQnk

 

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[LogGrad98]

That would seriously be the coolest Jesus ever. Way cooler than the Jesus with the gauged ears and huge Jesus tattoo across his back that mows our lawn. Seriously.

 

[babe]

Your level of argument is definitely higher than the rest of us, so I'm going to deflate it.

My favorite demonstration of intelligence in the animal kingdom is when the black widow eats her mate afterwards...

men everywhere have the intelligence to know this is not "progress" or "evolution", but merely an evil afterthought inspired by Satan. Few scientists, however, have burned the midnight oil cogitating or experimenting to prove the non-existence of Satan and/or the Evil One's destructive contributions to the world we know.

As you know, I consider this line of thought demonstrated sufficiently in the acts of politicians.

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so, what has become of your husband???

 

[carolinajazz]

sure.
but if one organism can survive as it is; then where is the need for further evolution?

Environmental changes did not kill those that have survived, so these animal species are the end-products in their production lane.
It cannot be both ways.
Either you face extinction and you evolve.
or you survive already, so you don't seek new solutions, easier life, whatever that is which forms the underlying "motive" for evolution.

...excellent point!.....and one evolutionist have no sane or reasonable answer for.....especially One Brow and his cockamamie suedo-intellectural gobblygook responses that evade the issues we raise by just saying "given enough time ANYTHING can happen!"

 

[MVP]

especially One Brow and his cockamamie suedo-intellectural gobblygook responses that evade the issues we raise

So far One Brow answered all your weak questions perfectly.
On the other hand I am still awaiting creationist explanation for London underground mosquito.

 

[carolinajazz]

So far One Brow answered all your weak questions perfectly.
On the other hand I am still awaiting creationist explanation for London underground mosquito.

...we've answered that question more times than a Jazz missed jumpshot! IT'S STILL A MOSQUITO! It doesn't "evolve" into a bird, a plane or even a tall building! Insects remain insects, reptiles remain reptiles, mammals remain mammals! There is a distinct and definite limit as to the varieties within a Genesis "kind" that does not allow for the evolutionary thinking or process! This variety or adaptability is indeed, amazing! But it never goes beyond those boundaries! Cats remain cats, dogs remain dogs, monkeys remain monkeys, etc. etc. etc.! So, enough of this foolishness! By the way, who do you think is going to win the regionals?

 

[One Brow]

...excellent point!.....and one evolutionist have no sane or reasonable answer for.....especially One Brow and his cockamamie suedo-intellectural gobblygook responses that evade the issues we raise by just saying "given enough time ANYTHING can happen!"

Actually, I answered that question in post #478, and so far you have been silent on the response. However, I can understand your impetus to cheer each other on; you really don't have much else to go on.

 

[One Brow]

...we've answered that question more times than a Jazz missed jumpshot! IT'S STILL A MOSQUITO! It doesn't "evolve" into a bird, a plane or even a tall building! Insects remain insects, reptiles remain reptiles, mammals remain mammals!

This is what evolutionary theory says. The offspring of insects are insects, the offspring of mammals are mammals, and the offspring of reptiles are reptiles, while some of which reptiles are mammals. YOu keep repeating this as if it is counter to evolutionary theory. It is not.

There is a distinct and definite limit as to the varieties within a Genesis "kind" that does not allow for the evolutionary thinking or process!

Not only is there no scientific reason to believe this, there is also no Biblical reason. There is no Bible verse that limits how varied a kind can get. It says according to their kinds, but never states the limits of a kind.

This variety or adaptability is indeed, amazing! But it never goes beyond those boundaries! Cats remain cats, dogs remain dogs, monkeys remain monkeys, etc. etc. etc.!

Again, this is standard evolutionary theory.

 

[MVP]

...we've answered that question more times than a Jazz missed jumpshot! IT'S STILL A MOSQUITO!

Ok so you agree that we have a proof of new species evolving due to unique environment. The one which was never know before and it is safe to assume would have not come to existence without environmental change. The one which evolution took only hundred years + to happen. Now open your mind and think millions of years and much more significant changes to environment like oxygen levels changing about 5% one way or the other. Temperature raising or dropping 20-30 degrees. Think about it. THINK. THINK. We evolved best brains in the animal kingdom for that, use it my friend!