New Edition Terms and Rules

I skimmed through. Sounding like something I wrote as a sort of humorous retort to I think Bullet's pious assertions that law is the very essence of morality somehow.

I give everyone some flack at times. One of my philosophical centerpoints is the description of the difference between boys and girls contained in the anecdote about the girls playing tea party in the living room, ever so tidy and organized in every conceivable respect, and chattering away with ever delicate nuance of social propriety.

The boy comes through the room, sneers at the girls, knocks the table over and stalks outta the room laughing.

Every tidy little settled conventional order needs once in a while to be overturned so something better can be started.

Everyone has their own sense of things. To me the usefulness of a platform like this is entirely in the opportunity to challenge one another. And that should not be anything anyone needs to feel is detrimental. Having people willing to discuss different points of view is worth a lot more than having a museum of everything politically correct or settled, whether socially or scientifically.....

The utility of rules equivalent to the Masters of Universe.... Breitbarts term for Silicon Valley big platform folks….. well.... nobody is too big to fail.... should be debated.

what.... you guys are a collection of oh say ten small time contributors holding up a little social club? Do whatever it takes to sleep at night.

I will always argue for public sites needing to treat people equally. If you don't want to do that, you could at least define your terms of selection. That is what it takes to be a private club.

Law is the essence of morality?

As usual, you don't really read what I write, same as I don't really read what you write. Let's just stop interacting with each other, starting with you not referencing me in your posts so much. Sound like a plan? Cool, let's start right now.

babe said:

I skimmed through. Sounding like something I wrote as a sort of humorous retort to I think Bullet's pious assertions that law is the very essence of morality somehow.

I give everyone some flack at times. One of my philosophical centerpoints is the description of the difference between boys and girls contained in the anecdote about the girls playing tea party in the living room, ever so tidy and organized in every conceivable respect, and chattering away with ever delicate nuance of social propriety.

The boy comes through the room, sneers at the girls, knocks the table over and stalks outta the room laughing.

Every tidy little settled conventional order needs once in a while to be overturned so something better can be started.

Everyone has their own sense of things. To me the usefulness of a platform like this is entirely in the opportunity to challenge one another. And that should not be anything anyone needs to feel is detrimental. Having people willing to discuss different points of view is worth a lot more than having a museum of everything politically correct or settled, whether socially or scientifically.....

The utility of rules equivalent to the Masters of Universe.... Breitbarts term for Silicon Valley big platform folks….. well.... nobody is too big to fail.... should be debated.

what.... you guys are a collection of oh say ten small time contributors holding up a little social club? Do whatever it takes to sleep at night.

I will always argue for public sites needing to treat people equally. If you don't want to do that, you could at least define your terms of selection. That is what it takes to be a private club.

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I have a few questions.

1- Who are you addressing in this post?
2- What are you saying?
3- Is there a point?

Thanks

Jazz Spazz said:

I have a few questions.

1- Who are you addressing in this post?
2- What are you saying?
3- Is there a point?

Thanks

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Fair questions.

Since you don't know, and I didn't say.... you can assume you don't need to know. Anyone who knows, fine.

I can assume well enough that those who know will care to hear from me.

Bulletproof said:

Law is the essence of morality?

As usual, you don't really read what I write, same as I don't really read what you write. Let's just stop interacting with each other, starting with you not referencing me in your posts so much. Sound like a plan? Cool, let's start right now.

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You are just the kind of person who can be abusive of others and then dismissive of them when they push back.

I don't think you are a Jazz Fan at all, except as a peripheral excuse to tell all the world what is what. I think you ruin this forum with your act, as central as you try to make it.

A site that professes to be about the Jazz should be much less intense about the politics.

Of course you won't accept the views of others, even after hundreds of "contributions" denouncing others for being everything you deem wrong in any way, and you do reference legal matters to argue for your morality.

You don't get to tell me what to say or do, if you don't want to be referenced, stop posting stuff in here and referencing me. Ignore would be a good exercise for you.

babe said:

Fair questions.

Since you don't know, and I didn't say.... you can assume you don't need to know. Anyone who knows, fine.

I can assume well enough that those who know will care to hear from me.

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Your own version of parables, I get it. Those who have ears, let them hear.

I won't assume anything. They weren't snarky questions, I was seriously wondering. It did not make sense, I felt like I turned on the tv to a movie that was halfway through, and I had no idea what was going on. I do find it helpful to know who the "you guys" is referencing, for instance. It's also good to know if the post is soliloquy, or if a response is hoped for/expected.

I might take this discussion back to the "Bake My Cake" thread. I do think I have something important to say on the subject.

Fundamentally, I do not think a little site like this should really need "The Twenty Lawyer Team" sort of muscle to operate. I am of course making a little fun of the borax commercials of a long time ago, and lawyers are fairly compared to mules. Nobody in here needs to be concerned that I will do anything to impair or injure this site or themselves, personally.

However, I do make the point that some things need to be improved, chief among them is the privacy issue and the need to establish a better firewall against hackers, or permaban anyone who hacks into accounts in here.

Also, perhaps in the legal opinion department..... I support the concept that public sites should make every effort to treat folks equally across divergent lines of personality or belief. I contemplate backing outta the general discussion department. I don't think a sport site should be all that serious about the politics or other subjects.

The idea that owners of a site which is open to the public can really conceive of a valid legal policy for managing the herd, so to speak, on their platform is, or will be eventually, overturned in any case that does amount to denial of basic human rights. You are community. You are not private. You cannot escape the duty to uphold human rights.

I would suggest distancing yourselves from political agenda issues where people are routinely and consistently imposing a particular view of subjects on others while using terms of personal abuse in referencing others. I could make an example of Dutch in this. I'm not sure I know the right balance point of this, I'm sure there's some validity on every side. Dutch is not an American, is not familiar with our culture and ways exactly, nor really all that good with English. I believe he is a refugee from a socialist nation, and would like to see America not go that way. I think his comments are generally at least as good as his critics'. Just as civil, and just as valid. Generally. I think he doesn't need to mock anyone, either. Shouldn't need to, let's say.

Not that I wannabe a moderator, but I will say those non-moderators who have taken every opportunity to harass him need to think it over just a bit.

I think Dutch came back with some load of hurt and just wanted to do a little show to spite the site. I asked him not to bother, just accept folks here include some with a political agenda, and try to be respectful of them. The one reason I would not really quit this site is its utility for me as an efficient way to follow the Jazz. I don't mind the political banter myself, if it can be a sporting contest.

Is this a sports site, or the final court of American destiny where hacks with a political agenda get to purify the human race? I admit I'm not "pure as the driven snow" either for not doing that purifying ritual in here or for respecting others in their comparable rituals.

Last spring when I saw the Jazz season coming on strong, I backed outta the politics for a bit, saying a sports site should not be a place for making a spectacle of political rancor.

/subject

babe said:

You are just the kind of person who can be abusive of others and then dismissive of them when they push back.

I don't think you are a Jazz Fan at all, except as a peripheral excuse to tell all the world what is what. I think you ruin this forum with your act, as central as you try to make it.

A site that professes to be about the Jazz should be much less intense about the politics.

Of course you won't accept the views of others, even after hundreds of "contributions" denouncing others for being everything you deem wrong in any way, and you do reference legal matters to argue for your morality.

You don't get to tell me what to say or do, if you don't want to be referenced, stop posting stuff in here and referencing me. Ignore would be a good exercise for you.

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Coming from you?? Have you ever even posted in the jazz section.

Siro said:

Coming from you?? Have you ever even posted in the jazz section.

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“Do as I say, not as I do”.

Yeah, I'm hardly even a Jazz fan at all...

Been to multiple Jazz games with other board members. Reupholstered my poker tables with Jazz logos, painted my kegerator Jazz colors. Have a Mitchell jersey (not signed... yet) and a signed Gobert Shirt. Have a ball I got signed from all the players and coaches on the '08 team because I had season tickets that year.

Mostly I just bully people in the GD section of Jazzfanz.

Bulletproof said:

Yeah, I'm hardly even a Jazz fan at all...

Been to multiple Jazz games with other board members. Reupholstered my poker tables with Jazz logos, painted my kegerator Jazz colors. Have a Mitchell jersey (not signed... yet) and a signed Gobert Shirt. Have a ball I got signed from all the players and coaches on the '08 team because I had season tickets that year.

Mostly I just bully people in the GD section of Jazzfanz.

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I don't think I've ever seen such lack of self awareness. The guy who's never posted in the Jazz section, and who spends several hours a day writing tomes about how wrong everyone is, has the balls to say what he said. ****ing insane.

Siro said:

I don't think I've ever seen such lack of self awareness. The guy who's never posted in the Jazz section, and who spends several hours a day writing tomes about how wrong everyone is, has the balls to say what he said. ****ing insane.

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Like a lot of folks, you are a lot like what you see in others.

The truth is, for me, politics is a game people play. Like basketball, really. You go on court and shoot a few shots, run around, have some fun, and then go home.

I like the Jazz principally because I live in Utah, some of the time anyway, have family and friends here. Know some Jazz people. I think it's great that we do as well as we do. I don't think I know enough to tell students of the sport or management what's what. I don't feel any need to say much in the Jazz forum.

I confess to being annoyed that this site is so far from Utah, politically. Hardly a credit to the team to have a determined (apparently) political agenda activist crew in here running people down in the General Discussion. I make a lot of fun outta you and you hate having to deal with it. Not very good sports, really.

It is a sort of slander to try to say false stuff like I never post in the Jazz section or that I'm not a Jazz fan. It is still a fair point that people who make politics so important they will run down people who don't agree are really "Jazz Fanz" in here.

As long as you're pumping your hate about people calling them very repugnant names, which you do, you're not really.... REALLY..... a Jazz Fan.

If you were a Jazz Fan, you'd accept people of whatever political strip who come in here to post on this site. Because being a Jazz Fan is more important than politics.

If you don't agree with babe's stupid *** opinions, then you're not a real American or a real Jazz fan.

****ing snowflake.

Siro said:

If you don't agree with babe's stupid *** opinions, then you're not a real American or a real Jazz fan.

****ing snowflake.

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The funny thing is that this message board is conservative overall. More people here are LDS conservatives than anything else. And the person who runs it is LDS conservative. Not that that means the agree with babe, he is in his own category.

Babe just has to find an excuse for a reason people dont believe his ideas that are not based in truth. His standard of truth if it is what he thinks about a subject. He finds the best sources to be some random person he has a chat with that tells him their experience. Those things are nice but obviously very anecdotal.

I do love that he has some conspiracy about this message board and the people who run it. I am not sure what that is because his posts are too hard to understand but I find it a great read either way.

Also attacking someones fandom is pretty funny. Babe admitted that he didnt even watch the Jazz at some point last season but based his opinions on a family member who watched most of the games so he "knew" the facts about the Jazz. He does post in the Jazz section once or twice a year. Other than that he is busy in GD trying to push his agenda and repeat what he hears that day from his conservative talk jocks.

Babe professes to be the smartest person on this board though, I guess we should listen to him. If you are a Jazz fan you better agree with babe and believe in "utah politics" because the Jazz are in Utah.

But I was paid to write this by the big wig people above so you can also ignore what I post.

babe said:

My brother says the Jazz are no good this year. Can't stand to watch.

I'm all for being the underdog and scraping up a bit of glory. You don't get good picks tanking. You get them on the street, say in some carwash in LA. Go find a couple of kids who work hard, say one who can pass and one who can shoot.

Other than that, never throw in on any game.

I really should watch one game.

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infection said:

You haven’t watched any games this season?

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babe said:

Actually, no. My brother watches everything. I ask him what happened. If he turns off a Jazz game, it's the end of the world. No TV at the ranch. Not even a computer there, or cell coverage. I travel a lot, but I'm doing all the driving, so besides the weather channel, zero. When I am at home, I have two girls who want to play Clue Master Detective, or the piano. They complain about my JFC time, even.

I read some stuff in here and figure you guys know it all. I don't think I can tell anyone anything in this part of JFC, but without it I wouldn't have a real link to the Jazz.

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Sorry, his brother watches the games for babe and lets him know what to think.

Can you bring back the OG edition that allowed us to neg rep members? I was much more obnoxious on that edition.

Do it.

Ron Mexico said:

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But I was paid to write this by the big wig people above so you can also ignore what I post.

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Hey, so was I. But at least I have an excuse for my behavior having grown up swimming in sand and chopping off heads.

George Sorros told me that of I can bully one more conservative jazzfanz poster into leaving or getting banned he's gonna give me a bonus big enough to get a pool installed in my backyard.

Bulletproof said:

George Sorros told me that of I can bully one more conservative jazzfanz poster into leaving or getting banned he's gonna give me a bonus big enough to get a pool installed in my backyard.

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Built entirely by illegal immigrants.

Siro said:

Hey, so was I. But at least I have an excuse for my behavior having grown up swimming in sand and chopping off heads.

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You're too tall. You could stand to lose a head's worth of height.