Eliminate the 2nd one and they will start using the first one. Yes, they want to use the second one because it makes them feel "badass", but any will do in a pinch I imagine. If you are set on shooting up a supermarket I imagine anything you can get that fires bullets will be just fine.
Also, I haven't seen anything on it yet, but have they released what the shooter used in this shooting? I haven't dug very deep either, just read a couple articles on yahoo.
I looked and couldn't find a description of the shooting weopon from any source, official or unofficial, yet.
Ruger has a factory in Arizona that has been going at capacity for a long time. I don't know what all they make, but hunting rifles like the one pictured above are a very large part of the sales, so far as I know. Pretty cheap Ruger 0.22 rifle that takes the clip, 10 or more depending on the clip. I know some people who have the AR 15 and have handled one. The argument there is they are light and easy to fire, and an excellent choice for women because of no kickback. They use I think a .223 round, just a little bigger than the 0.22.
The people I know who hunt deer use a .306 rifle. Some use a 0.270 rifle I think, but I know nothing about deer hunting, really. I've bagged several with my car, and even an Elk once. VERY high caliber weapon there, and when they come running at you, there's no way to miss unless you're driving under 50mph. If you're driving forty, or a Semi, you live and maybe even drive away to the collision repair shop.
I don't think anyone used a 0.22 or .223 for deer hunting, but I'm not a hunter. My vet was helping me with a cow several years ago, and coyotes were a problem. I used a 0.22 to scare a coyote away, and the the vet looked at me like I was nuts, then scolded me , telling me it would not kill a coyote, and wounding a dog is just cruel.
I replied that I always shoot for the head, if I'm not just chasing the dog away, and just don't miss. I have to confess, I was trying many years ago to run s herd of antelope outta my alfalfa, when I was a real know-nothing newb in the desert. I had found my way outta the lab and discovered air and sunshine, so I bought the farm, and one of those Ruger 0.22 rifles. So I was clear across the field, over a quarter mile away, and I just sorta aimed way high over the herd and shot. I heard a strange thud, and the herd ran off. I went over to see what had made that thud, and found an antelope dead. Bullet through the heart. My wolf "dog" got happy that day. So that's my authority. You have to shoot something in the head or the heart to kill with a 0.22, pretty much. Soldiers don't use 0.22 or 0.223. "Military-style" and "0.223" don't belong in the same line of print. They are for rabbits. Well, cans and rabbits. And for rocks if you want to start a grass wildfire and just watch the mountain burn in 5 minutes.
But this is what people are buying for self-protection and to scare off the government troops if they come knocking to get your guns. I think they only scare democrats and bureaucrats, but some guvmint know-nothings like Biden and Pelosi think they are more scary than peasants' pitchforks.
If we ban guns, the peasants will still have pitchforks, pikes, rocks, high-velocity tin can cars, clubs, hammers, etc. These are all more lethal than 0.223 guns. If they are not conservatives, they will also have bricks and bottles with rags and gasoline Also more lethal than a 0.223 gun.. Well, in a pinch, a broken bottle without the rag or gasoline, still more lethal. And the political class will never have anything at all unless they can incite the military against the peasants. And that's a "neener neener neener you're a beaner beaner beaner" sort of probability in America. That's why the Biden Administration is trying to cull all the Americans outta our military forces. There's a reason Biden wants those kids from Yemen coming flooding across our border. Mere Mexicans or Central Americans, however indoctrinated in Marxism and gathered and coached and marched by Marxists backed by Gates or Soros big bucks to our border..... once they're here, they're gonna become real Americans. Yah, it takes ten years, but they will become Republicans.
That's why we MUST have our leaders behind razor wire fences.
And that's why we MUST have election fraud in the hands of politicians. Without it, the Bidens and Pelosi's don't stand a chance.
But hey, even putting our "elected" officials behind protective fences is just insane when they are already so old they stumble on the stairs and lose their notes in staged press events. Do you know how old the average house rep is? There are so many sitting on the edge of their coffins, it's crazy to waste a bullet, let alone a more-expensive rock or bottle.
imo, we should not let the legislature, judges, or executive branch personnel out of those cages. Sentence them for life and disregard everything they say and do. All that guvmint machinery behind all that razor wire is just one big damn old folks home. As long as they have staff to change their Depends for them, we have nothing to worry about.
So that's the sum total of all I know about this.
Tell me how wrong I am.
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alright, so I'm kidding/lying. My dad, uncle and brother were competitive shooters and tried to teach me.
But political media does drive me nuts.
I think we should ban the press from covering stuff they know nothing about. Maybe if we did that, I'd have to shut up too.
Fine with me if we just shut down fake news and Chinese-style mass media with "fact-check" paid liars on the payroll. I know it sounds like giving people some literacy test to get to speak in public, but hell, that's what the libs are doing on their own owned accounts. Turn about is fair play.
damn. Caught myself lying again.
I'm not in favor of shutting down any free speech.
I live for the laughs.
Pretty sure our libs are burning their political capital the way they're printing faux currency and throwing money out the windows of Congress. It can't last long. There will be sanity some day soon.