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The Lab Virus: WLV19

I will be interested in what the result of this will be. I doubt any actual repercussions ever happen nor will China ever admit anything.

I also won't be giving 'credit' or whatever we call it to Trump as his entire MO is to blame someone for anything that he doesn't like or goes wrong as can be seen in every policy decision he's ever made. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day and all that.

Also probably a good reminder that nuclear war scares a lot of people, but germ warfare is a much more realistic and deadly threat in the long run.
 
Any of the 6 makes arginine, but coronaviruses have a natural bias into which codons are used for arginine and rarely use the CGG codon.
You forgot to include the word "human", that is, human coronaviruses have this bias. Non-human coronaviruses often show a different bias.


The heatmap analysis (Fig. 4b) revealed that SARS-CoV-2 and all the non-human coronaviruses analyzed in this study shared the over-represented codons (GGU, UCU, CCU) and all ended with U, meanwhile they shared the under-represented codons (UCG, GGG, GCG, CCG, CGG, ACG, CGA) and most ended with G except for CGA. Codon usage pattern of SARS-CoV-2 was generally found a high similarity to that of betacoronaviruses except for Bat coronavirus HKU4–1, Bat coronavirus HKU5–1(Fig. 4c, Supplementary Figures 5, 6, 7, 8).

I don't think you are going to be able to use codon usage as a means of deciding whether this virus was produced in a laboratory.
 
You forgot to include the word "human", that is, human coronaviruses have this bias. Non-human coronaviruses often show a different bias.
That is an interesting paper and thank you for quoting the relevant section. When the authors wrote “all the non-human coronaviruses analyzed … shared the under-represented codons (UCG, GGG, GCG, CCG, CGG, ACG, CGA)”, they’re saying non-human coronaviruses don’t use CGG either. Human coronaviruses rarely use CGG. Non-human coronaviruses shared the rare use of CGG. Beta-coronaviruses in general rarely use CGG, and no beta-coronavirus has ever been found in nature that used a back-to-back CGG codon.

I don't think you are going to be able to use codon usage as a means of deciding whether this virus was produced in a laboratory.
There is at least one PhD with a Nobel Prize in this field who disagrees with you.
 
It is looking like the reality is we will never know where this virus came from. There is not enough information about it and I dont see that changing since a lot of the information is gone now. It does seem like most scientists who have had a small chance to study it think its most likely from an animal and that is definitely possible. But there is a chance is accidently leaked from a lab researching this. I think the important part of the lab is its purpose that has been pretty transparent, they were trying to prevent future outbreaks, especially after SARS. It does seem it was not up to quality standards and its a real possibility. There is no record of the virus we have know being discovered in this lab from detailed records, but I would not put it past China to cover that somehow.

But the reality is it doesn't really change anything about the situation. The only thing it could change is preventing other ones.
 
It is looking like the reality is we will never know where this virus came from. There is not enough information about it and I dont see that changing since a lot of the information is gone now. It does seem like most scientists who have had a small chance to study it think its most likely from an animal and that is definitely possible. But there is a chance is accidently leaked from a lab researching this.
What an awful take. Of course they can figure out where this virus came from, it will be much easier if all parties involved cooperate. We already have a defector scientist from the lab in asylum who says they created the virus.

My question is, was Obama approving the safety measures days before he left office, enough to allow funding of a global bioweapon. Also, did Trump have any knowledge of GOF research being restarted.
But the reality is it doesn't really change anything about the situation. The only thing it could change is preventing other ones.
It does matter, if it comes out that the US was funding GOF research in China, if China was doing this on its own. That would mean NIH lied, the CDC, WHO, Dr. Faucci. They all lied to the American people if GOF research was taking place with US taxpayers money.

Otherwise, it came from a Wuhan wet market in China from some bats....and they all told the truth.
 
Give some context to your random *** tweet other than uh oh. That means nothing to me as it stands
Faucci's emails were just released under FOIA and it looks like Moderna had a patent that matched the virus years before the COVID outbreak.
 
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Sorry Hax0rs but this is a nothing-burger. The Moderna and Pfizer mRNA vaccines are essentially the synthesized S-2P protein with some stuff to protect it. The S-2P protein is the S-Spike from SARS-CoV-2 that has been altered in a way to keep it pinned in the closed position. Other than that one tiny change, it is the SARS-CoV-2 S-Spike.

The whole idea is that it is supposed to look to the immune system exactly like a SARS-CoV-2 S-Spike. These S-2P proteins are injected and they are taken up by the dendritic cells which display the S-2P proteins on their coats, and the dendritic cells parade around like they are SARS-CoV-2 to teach the immune system what a SARS-CoV-2 looks like. That the S-2P looks so genetically identical to the SARS-CoV-2 S-Spike is why the vaccines are so effective.

The team that developed the S-2P is out of the University of Texas at Austin. I don’t think there is any conspiracy they had advanced information in order to develop it so quickly. I think the UT Austin researchers were just that good.
 
That would mean NIH lied, the CDC, WHO, Dr. Faucci. They all lied to the American people

You forgot trump. He lied to the American people when he said it would just magically go away.

And who cares who created it or lied about it anyway? According to trump it was simply a nothingburger and wasn't dangerous at all anyways.

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There are over 3 million people who died and countless other continuing to suffer from being infected. I care about it.
You missed the sarcasm apparently.
Did you not read the rest of the post?


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Sorry Hax0rs but this is a nothing-burger. The Moderna and Pfizer mRNA vaccines are essentially the synthesized S-2P protein with some stuff to protect it. The S-2P protein is the S-Spike from SARS-CoV-2 that has been altered in a way to keep it pinned in the closed position. Other than that one tiny change, it is the SARS-CoV-2 S-Spike.

The whole idea is that it is supposed to look to the immune system exactly like a SARS-CoV-2 S-Spike. These S-2P proteins are injected and they are taken up by the dendritic cells which display the S-2P proteins on their coats, and the dendritic cells parade around like they are SARS-CoV-2 to teach the immune system what a SARS-CoV-2 looks like. That the S-2P looks so genetically identical to the SARS-CoV-2 S-Spike is why the vaccines are so effective.

The team that developed the S-2P is out of the University of Texas at Austin. I don’t think there is any conspiracy they had advanced information in order to develop it so quickly. I think the UT Austin researchers were just that good.
What’s more rare than a 19bp Furin cleavage site is a CEO as the lead author of a patent.

Moderna CEO Stéphane Bancel (now a billionaire equity shareholder) was previously CEO of bioMérieux. bioMérieux's founder, Alain Mérieux, is a personal friend of Xi Jinping, & he helped build the P4 lab in Wuhan.
 
You got a serious case of TDS cupcake.

You are as dumb as you look, poor gal.
Those were trumps words not mine. I agree with you that Trump is dumb. So are his supporters, dummy

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