For what its worth, I have never had a police officer ask if they can search my vehicle.Yeah I mean my advice is not about getting away with committing crimes, it's about not providing an opening that allows to police to create something that doesn't exist, either intentionally or unintentionally.
And I really, really don't understand consenting to searches. All you have to do is say "I don't consent to searches." By submitting you are normalizing their expectation that they can search anyone's car anytime they want to and that refusing to allow a search is suspicious.
If you know any lawyers ask them if you should just freely answer police questions and allow them to search whatever they want. I know what lawyers (legal experts) say about this.
The police use these tactics to target certain people based on their own biased perspectives. It is an abuse and it results in deaths.
Watch the ****ing video, that's not true.Don't drive intoxicated and you won't have to worry about it.
Neither have I. By the time they do that they are absolutely not your friend. There is only one reason for the police to search your vehicle and that's to justify arresting you, which is 100% their goal if they want to search.For what its worth, I have never had a police officer ask if they can search my vehicle.
By April 2012, her credibility had come into question so much that a prosecutor said he would no longer prosecute DUIs if Steed's testimony was the only evidence.
In October, the Salt Lake Tribune obtained a memo written in May 2010 in which Utah Highway Patrol Sgt. Rob Nixon flagged Steed's "pattern" of questionable DUI arrests. He wrote that the bulk of Steed's arrestees had no signs of "impairing drugs" in their systems.
The memo said she based most of her arrests on signs of impairment such as dilated pupils and leg and body tremors.
Steed was taken off road patrol in April 2012 and fired in November. She was accused of violating department policies, falsifying police reports and using questionable practices when making DUI arrests.
I dont think that statement is flat out wrong. I think that there are rare times that it is wrong but I think that most people not breaking any laws dont have to worry about it most of the time. So its usually correct imo. I dont know if there are statistics available but I would be surprised if the statistics showed that the majority of the time a person is not breaking any laws that they end up in trouble with the police.To me it seems simple and obvious, but then all the comments I've gotten so far amount to "don't break the law and you don't have to worry about it" which is 100% flat out wrong.
You would think that, but there are good examples against it.I dont think that statement is flat out wrong. I think that there are rare times that it is wrong but I think that most people not breaking any laws dont have to worry about it most of the time. So its usually correct imo. I dont know if there are statistics available but I would be surprised if the statistics showed that the majority of the time a person is not breaking any laws that they end up in trouble with the police.
You are correct that the majority of the time the police pull someone over they don't fabricate charges against them. Especially if you're in a favorable demographic.I dont think that statement is flat out wrong. I think that there are rare times that it is wrong but I think that most people not breaking any laws dont have to worry about it most of the time. So its usually correct imo. I dont know if there are statistics available but I would be surprised if the statistics showed that the majority of the time a person is not breaking any laws that they end up in trouble with the police.
I agree with all of that. Yet I still believe that the statistics would show that people not breaking laws have less issues with police than people breaking laws.You would think that, but there are good examples against it.
For example, in 1972, a crack commando unit were sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit (heard it was the field sobriety test that took them down). These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, I recommend it, as they are an A+ team...
Also, if you drive with a 420 sticker, with a lowered Civic with tinted windows and chassis lights, expect more hassle from the cops.
The same goes for old, poorly maintained vehicles. Body sized trash bags are also no good. (Still think Ziploc should come out with Ziploc body bags with the colored seal so you know it is sealed and fresh.
Utah cops also like to hassle people with out of state plates, particularly California.
I hear the Pontiac Aztek is also an understated option for meth chemists.
If I was a cop I'd pull everyone over that drives one of those Smart For 2 vehicles, because you know there is something suspicious going on with those people...
I just saw that the officer who killed Dante Wright was found guilty of manslaughter for shooting him with her gun instead of a taser.
I admit, I hadn’t paid attention to this at all. I have no idea whether he’s black or white. Yet I was not surprised that it happened in Minneapolis (same place as George Floyd) and it was over… expired registration.
Which brings up the main question asked almost two years ago: do we really need the police to handle these situations?
Broken taillights, expired registration, giving someone a counterfeit $20, I mean seriously??? Is that really worth their salary? Is it really worth risking escalation like we just saw with Dante Wright or George Floyd? Can’t expired registration be handled differently?
Earlier this year my wife let her car registration expire. Nothing malignant, she forgot about it. When she went to get her oil changed, the mechanic let her know that her registration had expired. No guns were needed. Didn't need cops. She paid to have the registration done there and we got the sticker. In 15 mins the issue was resolved and no one died from it.
It’s almost 2022, why are the police still wasting time with stupid issues like taillights and expired stickers?
I agree with that scenario more so than a cop pulling me over for speeding. In this scenario there is a dead body. I dont want there to be any chance that im involved in a murder case. In the speeding scenario im trying to think of the worst case scenario of me telling a cop im on my way home from fishing or something and about the worst think I can think of is that maybe I get let off with a warning or get a ticket.So maybe I'm just weird like that but this got me thinking about a scenario.
If I walked into work, let's say I work at a mid-sized office, and my boss is dead on the floor I would call 911 and then go see if there is anything I can do or if he/she is just dead. I would tell the 911 operator that my boss is on the floor and appears to be dead and give the address to the office and even though they would ask me to stay on the line I'd go ahead and hang up.
When the police got there I would show them to the body. I would give them basic info, like my name and the dead person's name and position, etc. After that was out of the way and they started asking me more questions I would tell them that I need to talk to a lawyer before I answer any more of their questions. They would probably say "Don't you want to help us figure out what happened? Why would you need a lawyer if you've done nothing wrong?" I would say that this is a legal situation and I need a legal expert to advise me on how I should handle it, as I am not a legal expert and don't know what I should do.
Even if I wanted to give all the details I could think of at the scene, if they wanted me to go to the station so that I could make an official statement, that's where, even though I'm 1000% innocent. I would not do it without talking to a lawyer first. Through my lawyer I would provide as much information and assistance as I possibly could. But I will never under any circumstances for any reason go with police to sit in an interrogation room and provide them with any information without talking to a lawyer first. I don't care what the situation is.
Yeah and I agree with that. But I'm not trying to roll the dice.I agree with all of that. Yet I still believe that the statistics would show that people not breaking laws have less issues with police than people breaking laws.
What if they just found a person shot dead at the lake you just got done fishing at?I agree with that scenario more so than a cop pulling me over for speeding. In this scenario there is a dead body. I dont want there to be any chance that im involved in a murder case. In the speeding scenario im trying to think of the worst case scenario of me telling a cop im on my way home from fishing or something and about the worst think I can think of is that maybe I get let off with a warning or get a ticket.
I kind of think you might be rolling the dice with your strategy though. I think it likely that answering a cops questions, when i haven't broken any laws, or not answering questions would both end up just fine most of the time. However I think that not cooperation could lead to the cop getting angry and maybe detaining me or using force on me or something. Sure in the end I would be in the right in that instance and would get the charges dropped in court and maybe even be able to sue. However I would rather just keep the drama out and go on about my day. I think being cooperative, even overly so, is the best way to achieve my goal of staying drama free.Yeah and I agree with that. But I'm not trying to roll the dice.
No thats a fair point. I guess I just gotta play the percentages. I think that a cop asking me where im headed and me answering with "im not going to answer you as its not your business" or something similar could lead to things getting testy and heated. Or at the least drawing things out by the cop trying to get me to explain why I wont talk to him. I would imagine the cop would ask follow up questions like "why are you being so defensive" and say things like "if you have nothing to hide then you should have no problem answering me" or "your resistance to my questions makes you seem suspicious" etc.What if they just found a person shot dead at the lake you just got done fishing at?
I know, I know. I'm taking this a bit far at this point, but still.
The police know that you don't have to answer questions. Getting aggressive with a person who chooses to remain silent could cost them their job. The important part for me is to be very polite, calm and cooperative. Not answering questions doesn't have to be confrontational. You can say "My lawyer friend told me I shouldn't answer questions, I'm just following their advice."No thats a fair point. I guess I just gotta play the percentages. I think that a cop asking me where im headed and me answering with "im not going to answer you as its not your business" or something similar could lead to things getting testy and heated. Or at the least drawing things out by the cop trying to get me to explain why I wont talk to him. I would imagine the cop would ask follow up questions like "why are you being so defensive" and say things like "if you have nothing to hide then you should have no problem answering me" or "your resistance to my questions makes you seem suspicious" etc.
I want to just avoid that convo and be on my way asap.