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I think something could be built around Conley for Smart. Boston might want more a floor general out there than Shroeder. I think Smart has more value due to age and contract, but Boston might be pretty desperate.
Conley is almost exactly what Boston needs, i think I’d probably do that deal. The question is if Conley is too old for their timeline; they’ve been such a train wreck that they’d probably want his leadership regardless. I would hope Schroeder could be rerouted, I don’t want him anywhere near the Jazz.
 
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I also screwed up this lineup:

Mitchell
Simmons
Bojan
Morris
Gobert

You can bitch about spacing all you want, but Simmons will score at the basket, be a gigantic body to throw the easy lob to Gobert, or if there’s any paint-crowding, you’ve got Donovan, Morris, and Bojan for kickouts.
My god this post is a giant waste of your time and space on the board. Wake up from your dream
 
The other thing is that if you trade ****, you can only expect to get **** back. So while I understand why people are throwing JC, Ingles, and Royce’s name out there more…you’re or going to get much for a player whose value is tanking.

It hurts more to trade Bogey/Conley, but that is the only way we’re getting a decent player back. If you’re not willing to move one of those guys, you have to be ok settling with what we have because JC/Ingles in particular are not going to have buyers and yield a ton. Last summer? Maybe, but definitely not now.
that's why Conley and Bogey are the more likely trade candidates based on Danny Ainge's way of business model. Trading low-end guys like JC, Jingles, Royce won't yield us any game changer. You gotta have the guts to give up one of your best players in order to get some real results. of course there's huge risk involved and this kind of trade could backfire easily. But taking a gamble at this point is better than treading the dead water, with the best outcome being a second round exit
 
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I was sorely disappointed at how bad Cedi Osman looked tonight. I thought he was a potential trade target. He's not a starting-caliber player.
 
I still think the Jazz should try to plunder the Rockets. Their owner is cheap, they're trying to lose, and they want future draft picks.

I think we can sell them on Jared Butler as a local hero and backcourt partner for Jalen Green.
 
Let’s talk about Marcus Smart. What would he fetch in a deal and what does Boston need? Same for Marcus Morris.
 
Let’s talk about Marcus Smart. What would he fetch in a deal and what does Boston need? Same for Marcus Morris.

From us, it’s probably Ingles and first. Maybe we can move somewhere else and add some assets to LAC of a third team has another expiring contract and wants Ingles.

Morris isn’t going to play here though. He has openly talked **** about the players and city.
 
I don't think this team is nearly as close to winning a championship as we thought they were and I'm not sure trading Ingles and a first round pick is a smart move at this point. The odds of us getting a player back that's going to move the needle enough to get us over the hump seem extremely low and I think we would be better off using the first-round pick in a bigger trade, either at the deadline or in the offseason. I'm starting to come around to the idea of trading Conley or Bogey... we need to do something bold.
 
Is Jabari Parker worth signing for free still only 26 years old and did average over 20 points a game a few years ago not sure if he is too injury prone or just rubbish ?
 
This team was never a true title contender. You don't win titles built around an offensively limited center. Ever.

The Mike Conley trade was one of the worst trades in the history of the franchise. We would have had better playoff success just keeping JAE CROWDER. Its so bad that we still owe a 1st round pick from that deal.

Titles are won by dynamic offensive players and good perimeter defenders, and we don't have any good perimeter defenders.

Quin only knows how to catch the "funnel to Rudy" model. Thats why we wasted picks on Bradley, Dok, etc while signing guys like Whiteside. He's desperately trying to find Rudy 2.0 to run the only system he know how to coach. The same system that doesn't work in the modern day playoffs.

I don't care who you trade at this point. Joe's window is shut. Mike's window is barely open. Bojan is set for a slide before long. Rudy won't be this Rudy for long. If Don wants gone, trade him.

Such a wasted opportunity

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Is Jabari Parker worth signing for free still only 26 years old and did average over 20 points a game a few years ago not sure if he is too injury prone or just rubbish ?
My opinion is he is not committed to basketball. He is the poster-child for someone with all the skills and talent and physical ability but zero drive. Just say no to Jabari.
 
This team was never a true title contender. You don't win titles built around an offensively limited center. Ever.

The Mike Conley trade was one of the worst trades in the history of the franchise. We would have had better playoff success just keeping JAE CROWDER. Its so bad that we still owe a 1st round pick from that deal.

Titles are won by dynamic offensive players and good perimeter defenders, and we don't have any good perimeter defenders.

Quin only knows how to catch the "funnel to Rudy" model. Thats why we wasted picks on Bradley, Dok, etc while signing guys like Whiteside. He's desperately trying to find Rudy 2.0 to run the only system he know how to coach. The same system that doesn't work in the modern day playoffs.

I don't care who you trade at this point. Joe's window is shut. Mike's window is barely open. Bojan is set for a slide before long. Rudy won't be this Rudy for long. If Don wants gone, trade him.

Such a wasted opportunity

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Ben Wallace was definitely offensively dynamic. That guys could score from everywhere as long as it was within 3 feet of the basket.

Luc Longley was an offensive juggernaut. I just remembered. And he was backed up by Wennington, offensive powerhouse.

Nesterovic was a beast, outshine Duncan with regularity.

Kevin Looney is a dynamic offensive player, often outshines Steph.

The interesting thing is Rudy has a stronger offensive rating, and has for years, than all of these guys. And even better than a lot of scoring centers as well.

Fact is teams win championships. If you told these teams that their offensively limited centers would never help them win a championship they would have spit champagne in your face.
 
Ben Wallace was definitely offensively dynamic. That guys could score from everywhere as long as it was within 3 feet of the basket.

Luc Longley was an offensive juggernaut. I just remembered. And he was backed up by Wennington, offensive powerhouse.

Nesterovic was a beast, outshine Duncan with regularity.

Kevin Looney is a dynamic offensive player, often outshines Steph.

The interesting thing is Rudy has a stronger offensive rating, and has for years, than all of these guys. And even better than a lot of scoring centers as well.

Fact is teams win championships. If you told these teams that their offensively limited centers would never help them win a championship they would have spit champagne in your face.
None of those teams were built around those centers. The only one worth any sort of conversation is Ben Wallace. He worked his tail on defense while being able to guard the perimeter and post. He was an athletic freak. Ben Wallace was not an important part of the offensive game whatsoever. The Pistons team was built evenly. We are not. We run everything on both ends around Rudy. It doesn't work. It clearly won't work.
 
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