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Fire Snyder!!!

We were healthy tonight and lost to a Lakers team without half their team (incl. AD). We won't get past the first round in the playoffs
lol, yep we had a bad game and terrible terrible shooting and lost. If that is the benchmark for you for first round I dont think any team in the NBA is getting out of the first round. Might be a crazy year with no teams in the second round!
 
Snyder did not shoot 24-1( 4 of our main players) from three, but maybe some plays to attack the paint was indicated when threes where so off, especially vs small ball.
 
Great strategically but not practically? What?

He's as average as they come. He got lucky with Rudy turning out the way he did. Rudy is the reason why they've gone to the playoffs. I think if anything Rudy is being held back by Quin because he's running an offense through players like JC who are complete chuckers and don't get anyone else involved. There's no consequence.
Yes, strategic planning, and practical in game adjustments are two different things. Quin can make a great game plan, but believes so heavily in his process and plan that he refuses to adjust to what obviously needs adjusting. As has been mentioned Donovan and Bogeys shooting was brick city as well last night, it was just obvious how damaging JC was being last night and Quin left him in longer. Like staying with your player? Okay Quin, but that was unbelievable stuff leaving him in like that last night. Tbh Donovan was pretty much as bad, but you can’t bench him. Bogey was taking decent shots and missing them along with playing decent defense. We’d have been better off with Donovan and JC in health and safety protocols last night.
 
Snyder did not shoot 24-1( 4 of our main players) from three, but maybe some plays to attack the paint was indicated when threes where so off, especially vs small ball.
We can always say Quin didn’t miss the shots, or Quin wasn’t the one who didn’t box out, or Quin wasn’t the one burned on the perimeter, or Quin wasn’t the one who turned the ball over, etc. All of those things have me wonder what Quin’s role is if he doesn’t do those things. To call timeouts and make substitutions?
 
What you see is what you get with Quinny. At one time it was cool having a coach that looks like a Bond villain, Patrick Bateman but now you see he's completely stubborn, and hurting the development of this team, long term, and his gameplan and rotations aren't going to equate to a championship Hopefully Ainge puts his *** in the hot seat soon
 
It would be so interesting to see what Spoelstra or Kerr could do with this team. I think there would be a legitimate shot of at least making the conference finals. Monty Williams would also be a decent choice. I think any of the three could tighten up the defense and sharpen execution.
 
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Maybe I'm wrong but it seems like Quin already has Jazz overachieving right now
Maybe this is as good as they can get
Hope not :mad::mad::mad:
 
Snyder did not shoot 24-1( 4 of our main players) from three, but maybe some plays to attack the paint was indicated when threes where so off, especially vs small ball.
No but by giving each of those players 30+ minutes on consecutive nights compounded by the away factor, you greatly reduce your likelihood of success. Try it yourself, go out and shoot threes when you are tired and sore. You’re so far from the target your muscles have an extra hard time compensating for the perceived load increase. And yet regardless how good our bench is, it just doesn’t matter to this OCD coach because he’s only going to give the bare minimum if you’re not top rotation. No coach in the NBA leans on their starters as hard as this one.

Can yo imagine a pitcher going full game b2b? Pundits were talking today about the tremendous advantage that the Packers will have against the 49ers well rested.
 
No but by giving each of those players 30+ minutes on consecutive nights compounded by the away factor, you greatly reduce your likelihood of success. Try it yourself, go out and shoot threes when you are tired and sore. You’re so far from the target your muscles have an extra hard time compensating for the perceived load increase. And yet regardless how good our bench is, it just doesn’t matter to this OCD coach because he’s only going to give the bare minimum if you’re not top rotation. No coach in the NBA leans on their starters as hard as this one.

Can yo imagine a pitcher going full game b2b? Pundits were talking today about the tremendous advantage that the Packers will have against the 49ers well rested.
I think Quin manages minutes on a per game basis fairly well. Its a formula and its pre-determined so its in his wheelhouse.

As far as back to back... JC and Donovan both really struggle to shoot with 0 days rest... so a lot of it is tired legs.
 
I think Quin manages minutes on a per game basis fairly well. Its a formula and its pre-determined so its in his wheelhouse.

As far as back to back... JC and Donovan both really struggle to shoot with 0 days rest... so a lot of it is tired legs.
Yeah I’m sure the starters love it cause it pads their numbers, but don’t expect high morale from the bench. No coach in the nba does a worse job of time management on b2bs. And no coach in the NBA does a worse job of player development beyond high rotation pieces.
 
Snyder's commitment to only playing his rotation bugs me to--especially when we are underperforming. But cutting a guy's minutes is a lot more complicated than it is for us to bitch about it on the internet. I try to remember that. There are longterm consequences to being reactive in the moment, and Snyder has to manage this team over the course of a season. he has to have everyone locked in, giving maximum effort, and willing to sacrifice their own stats to win together come playoff time. He has to respect his players. He has to respect Clarkson, Ingles, Gay. He can't cut their minutes because they're struggling for a few games. Honestly, I think even if your plan is to change the rotation you probably have to let it play out for a while, slowly do it over time, so when it happens everyone, including the guy who's losing his position, can't argue with the choice. He'd probably rather lose a game in the middle of the season than lose a player's trust.

I don't think our roster has a lot of versatility either. yeah sometimes this team is infuriating when they are struggling but who do you really go to outside of the 8 guys on the team. The only one I really hold him accountable for and expect him to play and find minutes for is Pascall. Since we are probably not going to be able to find a trade, Pascall's development is really important if we want to have a chance. He can give us some of what we are desperately missing. Quinn has to get him minutes every game, even if it means tension with other guys.
 
Ainge's crowning is getting into heads, exactly as it should be. You can bet he's not here to run thru exective motions.
Dude for sure is a factor in people's thoughts all the way down up the organization.
That said, I do not think the coaching staff is in the hot seat at this particular moment.
They will be, just as any Jazzmen not named Donovan Mitchell, if they don't reach WCF.
 
Maybe I'm wrong but it seems like Quin already has Jazz overachieving right now
Maybe this is as good as they can get
Hope not :mad::mad::mad:
It seems like Quin already has the Jazz overachieving right now? Interesting take…
 
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