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Simone Fontecchio Two-year deal

I'm not sure I want to ask this, but what are you trying to say here? Are you saying you're talking to people who directly know a bit about the Jazz's thinking? Or are you simply referring to the speculation of certain people with some interest in the Jazz?

Can you connect the dots a little more here? What does the Miami situation have to do with the Knicks? Where is the idea that the Knicks are treating the Jazz like they have to trade him coming from? It certainly doesn't seem to be what the Knicks are operating like in public (post-playoffs at least). If the Jazz weren't interested in the Knicks offer, why would they even engage with the Knicks?

I guess some of this could make some sense if the argument is that the Jazz didn't intend to trade Gobert and were originally interested in trading DM for the Herro package and retooling that way. But then the Gobert offer turned into an offer that couldn't be refused. Then the Herro package got put on hold because the Heat were actually more interested in Durant and were (and continue to treat) Mitchell as the fallback option. Is this basically what you're saying?

But even if this is the case, things still get murky. Why are the Knicks involved at all? Are the Jazz still operating on the idea that they want to trade DM no matter what? Otherwise, why would there be frustration with the Knicks negotiations? If the Knicks don't offer a sufficient package, just move on. Why all the leaks about being close to a deal?
I can't answer the last question. It seems that the Jazz were looking to move DM first, have talks with Miami and feel their offer is insufficient. Then the TWolves enter and a deal is made. Now it could very well be that DM and some other players are going to be included in tradeapalooza with several teams and a lot of players and picks moving. Right now I don't see an urgency from the Jazz to get this done right now.
 
It's not the shooting for me, it is more likely to come than not with time. Especially if they are catch and shoot opportunities.

My biggest worry is the lack of seperation. I thought that overdribbling was a simple fixable issue that needed to be outgrown. Now, I think he is busting out moves for 6-7 seconds just to create an advantage because he can't break down defenses consistently. It really hampers his potential and limits him to be a secondary ball-handler off the bench and that's not very alluring.
He has a tendency to play with his food too much. Hopefully a bigger role will bring out his best.
 
We can work with a ultra-athletic big who has a nice looking shot with a quick release. He's a 85% FT shooter and close to 45% 3-pt shooter.
 
He's still relatively young and promising, so there's no reason that he can't be a piece of the rebuild.
These are among the players in the same age cohort as Fontecchio (according to Basketball Reference). Should they also be regarded as young and promising (rather than simply good or bad), and an age-appropriate piece of our rebuild (if available)?:
  • Trey Lyles
  • Jabari Parker
  • Dante Exum
  • Monte Morris
  • Aaron Gordon
  • Zach Lavine
  • KAT
  • Jokic
  • Wiggins
  • Kuzma
  • Poetl
  • Porzingis
  • Josh Hart
  • Dillon Brooks
  • Juancho
Seems to me these guys (and probably Fontecchio) fit a lot better age-wise if the idea is to retool around Donovan.
 
These are among the players in the same age cohort as Fontecchio (according to Basketball Reference). Should they also be regarded as young and promising (rather than simply good or bad), and an age-appropriate piece of our rebuild (if available)?:
  • Trey Lyles
  • Jabari Parker
  • Dante Exum
  • Monte Morris
  • Aaron Gordon
  • Zach Lavine
  • KAT
  • Jokic
  • Wiggins
  • Kuzma
  • Poetl
  • Porzingis
  • Josh Hart
  • Dillon Brooks
  • Juancho
Seems to me these guys (and probably Fontecchio) fit a lot better age-wise if the idea is to retool around Donovan.
Yeah, let's bring back Trey Lyles. A fan favorite.
 
These are among the players in the same age cohort as Fontecchio (according to Basketball Reference). Should they also be regarded as young and promising (rather than simply good or bad), and an age-appropriate piece of our rebuild (if available)?:
  • Trey Lyles
  • Jabari Parker
  • Dante Exum
  • Monte Morris
  • Aaron Gordon
  • Zach Lavine
  • KAT
  • Jokic
  • Wiggins
  • Kuzma
  • Poetl
  • Porzingis
  • Josh Hart
  • Dillon Brooks
  • Juancho
Seems to me these guys (and probably Fontecchio) fit a lot better age-wise if the idea is to retool around Donovan.
According to you, the Jazz had 0 small forwards at the time of his signing. Is that not reason enough to sign him?
 
Jazz are keeping their options open. I believe the reports that they aren't desperate to trade Donovan and will only do so for a very good package.
 
According to you, the Jazz had 0 small forwards at the time of his signing. Is that not reason enough to sign him?
Did I say that somewhere without the qualifying assumption that Bogey is likely gone? (Maybe I did; but of course he's still around.)

But, as to your point: I'm not at all objecting to signing him. Hope he does well. Just saying that out of the two major paths the Jazz can still take, his age makes him a better fit with a Donovan retooling than a total rebuild. He could work with a rebuild, but then he likely becomes a piece to move along the way for other assets, if things go well, instead of someone who's likely here for the long haul.

But you never know; not everyone needs to be a similar age.
 
Jazz are keeping their options open. I believe the reports that they aren't desperate to trade Donovan and will only do so for a very good package.
I think I agree. At some point, people here may even start trying to imagine what a team with Donovan here this coming season might look like (what other moves are made? who stays? who goes?)
 
Did I say that somewhere without the qualifying assumption that Bogey is likely gone? (Maybe I did; but of course he's still around.)
LOL. I honestly forget that we haven’t traded away almost the entire team. Whoops.

But right. Running with the tanking scenario, Fontecchio would then be the only SF on the team, according to your appraisal of Bolmaro. Seems like reason enough to me, saying nothing about that 26 isn’t actually all that old or that he could just as easily be flipped as any other player.
 
LOL. I honestly forget that we haven’t traded away almost the entire team. Whoops.

But right. Running with the tanking scenario, Fontecchio would then be the only SF on the team, according to your appraisal of Bolmaro. Seems like reason enough to me, saying nothing about that 26 isn’t actually all that old or that he could just as easily be flipped as any other player.
Looks really good in those highlights. Big shooters who can shoot off movement will find a place in an NBA rotation. Not sure there is some big plan just the guys adding talent where they can.

Still like 25-33% of me that think we won't trade Don and end up trying to put something together for a one-year patch. In between september 6th and training camp will be watching the twitters really closely.
 
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