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lololol Bucks really doubling down on Doc. Signing him through 2027 season. He probably gonna get fired way before then
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Sometimes players have a lucky season. He's also perpetually hampered by injuries and is one dimensional type of player that the Hawks dont really need.

I know the act like Quin was actually bad is a trendy thing now, but he played the right players who were put in front of him.

I wouldnt be opposed to taking a flyer on him if he's free, but I'm not giving up assets to get him.
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Quin was actually bad. There is nothing trendy about it. Quin used to pull guys who were playing great to put Royce back in all the time. Amongst many other things but that one annoyed me a lot.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Sometimes players have a lucky season. He's also perpetually hampered by injuries and is one dimensional type of player that the Hawks dont really need.

I know the act like Quin was actually bad is a trendy thing now, but he played the right players who were put in front of him.

I wouldnt be opposed to taking a flyer on him if he's free, but I'm not giving up assets to get him.
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Its not a Quin sucks thing lol... I simple said why does he hate him so much he plays Matthews/Mills over him. Sometimes playing the right player for tonight is the wrong move. When you are clearly not maximizing winning this year anymore based on the well founded trade rumors... why not give development minutes to a guy that showed some promise as a rookie instead of a journeyman and a guy who is washed.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Between Cam and GG the character/maturity thing in this draft may have been completely overblown. Whoopsy.
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Ya I wanted both guys. Especially since we could have gotten cam at 16 and GG at 26. (I could be wrong on GG but I'm pretty sure he went later than 26. Not gonna look it up)
Steals.

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fishonjazz said:
Ya I wanted both guys. Especially since we could have gotten cam at 16 and GG at 26. (I could be wrong on GG but I'm pretty sure he went later than 26. Not gonna look it up)
Steals.

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He freaking went 45! That shows just how stupid the gm's in this league can be.
 
The thing with GG is that the whole weed in the locker-room story was just an unprecedented level of audacity and stupidity that it was kind of hard to ignore.

Not that weed is some crazy bad thing, but just the audacity to smoke weed in a NBA locker-room after you quit a workout that was too hard.

The saving grace with GG is that he seemed extremely likeable and humble in interviews.

Cam seemed like the opposite. Maybe not unlikeable, but you can definitely tell he had an ego and might be a guy who is tough to coach. And then there was the whole rumor that his college coach was sabotaging him in interviews with teams, which is also unprecedented

Maybe the lesson is you should mostly ignore character concerns unless they are criminal in nature.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
The thing with GG is that the whole weed in the locker-room story was just an unprecedented level of audacity and stupidity that it was kind of hard to ignore.

Not that weed is some crazy bad thing, but just the audacity to smoke weed in a NBA locker-room after you quit a workout that was too hard.

The saving grace with GG is that he seemed extremely likeable and humble in interviews.

Cam seemed like the opposite. Maybe not unlikeable, but you can definitely tell he had an ego and might be a guy who is tough to coach. And then there was the whole rumor that his college coach was sabotaging him in interviews with teams, which is also unprecedented

Maybe the lesson is you should mostly ignore character concerns unless they are criminal in nature.
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Good post

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Saint Cy of JFC said:
The thing with GG is that the whole weed in the locker-room story was just an unprecedented level of audacity and stupidity that it was kind of hard to ignore.

Not that weed is some crazy bad thing, but just the audacity to smoke weed in a NBA locker-room after you quit a workout that was too hard.

The saving grace with GG is that he seemed extremely likeable and humble in interviews.

Cam seemed like the opposite. Maybe not unlikeable, but you can definitely tell he had an ego and might be a guy who is tough to coach. And then there was the whole rumor that his college coach was sabotaging him in interviews with teams, which is also unprecedented

Maybe the lesson is you should mostly ignore character concerns unless they are criminal in nature.
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Way too early for any lessons, like worst case scenario would be that they ball out and earn a huge pay check and then their character issues become a problem.

(I'm not necessarily saying either of them had character issues that I find unacceptable, in fact I wanted the Jazz to draft both of them)
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Way too early for any lessons, like worst case scenario would be that they ball out and earn a huge pay check and then their character issues become a problem.

(I'm not necessarily saying either of them had character issues that I find unacceptable, in fact I wanted the Jazz to draft both of them)
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There are wins in the character column historically as well but yeah we need to see how this all works over time. I also wonder if these guys getting some humble pie on draft night has helped them a bit.
 
Harden has been decent for The Clippers this season which is nice to see as I like watching his game. Wondering if they try to improve as their window is small; oldest team in the league and most of their stars are 33+.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
The thing with GG is that the whole weed in the locker-room story was just an unprecedented level of audacity and stupidity that it was kind of hard to ignore.

Not that weed is some crazy bad thing, but just the audacity to smoke weed in a NBA locker-room after you quit a workout that was too hard.

The saving grace with GG is that he seemed extremely likeable and humble in interviews.

Cam seemed like the opposite. Maybe not unlikeable, but you can definitely tell he had an ego and might be a guy who is tough to coach. And then there was the whole rumor that his college coach was sabotaging him in interviews with teams, which is also unprecedented

Maybe the lesson is you should mostly ignore character concerns unless they are criminal in nature.
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Far too early to be judging character. At the moment these guys are relatively speaking nobodies who are having to earn every minute, lets see what their character is like once they establish themselves. Thats when the headaches begin, will be they be good enough players to justify any potential headaches.
 
Tom349 said:
Far too early to be judging character. At the moment these guys are relatively speaking nobodies who are having to earn every minute, lets see what their character is like once they establish themselves. Thats when the headaches begin, will be they be good enough players to justify any potential headaches.
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Or will the 18 year old who has a good attitude already simply mature and not cause any headaches in the first place?

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Saint Cy of JFC said:
The thing with GG is that the whole weed in the locker-room story was just an unprecedented level of audacity and stupidity that it was kind of hard to ignore.

Not that weed is some crazy bad thing, but just the audacity to smoke weed in a NBA locker-room after you quit a workout that was too hard.

The saving grace with GG is that he seemed extremely likeable and humble in interviews.

Cam seemed like the opposite. Maybe not unlikeable, but you can definitely tell he had an ego and might be a guy who is tough to coach. And then there was the whole rumor that his college coach was sabotaging him in interviews with teams, which is also unprecedented

Maybe the lesson is you should mostly ignore character concerns unless they are criminal in nature.
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The story wasn't even that he smoked weed in the locker room but rather hit a vape pen when he was changing after the workout.
 
Tom349 said:
Far too early to be judging character. At the moment these guys are relatively speaking nobodies who are having to earn every minute, lets see what their character is like once they establish themselves. Thats when the headaches begin, will be they be good enough players to justify any potential headaches.
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That can happen with anyone. The post is you can't really judges someone's character in a short time without knowing them
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
That can happen with anyone. The post is you can't really judges someone's character in a short time without knowing them
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Meh, we all do this all of the time, especially in a professional capacity. If I bugged out halfway through a job interview to rip a bong in the company bathroom, I'm probably not getting that job and it would be entirely on me no matter how qualified I was otherwise.
 
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