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LogGrad98 said:
That's not really a 1 to 1 in athletic endeavors. If it's pure fat, well most likely that's true. But adding muscle can increase agility and speed and endurance. It'll be different for every individual.
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This is what I’m talking about
Tanktastic said:
When Hardy met Lauri's Finnish trainer in SLC, the message was to change nothing and keep doing what you're doing.
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I think you need more context I’m not asking to bulk up 30 pounds or anything I just want him to be stronger so he can handle the more physical play. He can’t just stay the same. He has to adapt to the way people play him and you can do that without sacrificing your athletic ability.
 
When you read about Lauri's physics training during the last three off-seasons he and his trainer (during summer) have been putting emphasis on explosiveness, speed, agility and strength. Consequently his maximum strength results have increased, but he has actually lost a few pounds. I think it does seem like he has been doing the right things - judging by the results - , but I don't think the is a finished (even though Finnished? ;) ) product.
 
Step-Back Lauri said:
I think that the term " bulking up" has bad connotations, bc it really means nothing to just add mass.

Reducing or gaining mass without direction and competitive trainers and staff is always for bad. The team injury history that Garpax era Bulls had, indicates they were very incompetitive for professional team. You can add strength and muscle mass safely, when the plan is clear and it's all about functionality. The "bulking up" for me does refer to mindless pumping of iron.
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Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
This is what I’m talking about

I think you need more context I’m not asking to bulk up 30 pounds or anything I just want him to be stronger so he can handle the more physical play. He can’t just stay the same. He has to adapt to the way people play him and you can do that without sacrificing your athletic ability.
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It seems that you were just understanding differently the meaning of bulking up. For comparison, Jim Boylen literally gave Lauri a target weight for much he had to "bulk up" during the off-season between the second and third year of his NBA career. This probably was a big factor behind Lauri's injury problems and decreased athleticism during his last two seasons in Chicago.
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
This is what I’m talking about

I think you need more context I’m not asking to bulk up 30 pounds or anything I just want him to be stronger so he can handle the more physical play. He can’t just stay the same. He has to adapt to the way people play him and you can do that without sacrificing your athletic ability.
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Even if he "only" adds 10 to 15 pounds, I can only see it as a zero-sum game. Yes, he strengthens his weaknesses, but at the same time he compromises on his strengths. Lauri is a match-up problem who outruns everyone on the court. It is very short-sighted to demand him to change every time he faces challenges, yet we haven't seen this version of him in a competitive team.
 
Step-Back Lauri said:
I think that the term " bulking up" has bad connotations, bc it really means nothing to just add mass.

Reducing or gaining mass without direction and competitive trainers and staff is always for bad. The team injury history that Garpax era Bulls had, indicates they were very incompetitive for professional team. You can add strength and muscle mass safely, when the plan is clear and it's all about functionality. The "bulking up" for me does refer to mindless pumping of iron.
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Take steroids
 
he don’t need to bulk up . What he need is a shield. Like Perkins to Garnett. Doc rivers mentioned this. Boston then traded perk to sixers for some players and obviously, a FRP!
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
I think you need more context I’m not asking to bulk up 30 pounds or anything I just want him to be stronger so he can handle the more physical play.
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You were asking him to bulk up 15 pounds. Adding 15 pounds of muscle in one summer is pretty much impossible. Even taking all the PEDs and doing nothing but trying to build more muscle, it's highly improbable.

Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
He can’t just stay the same. He has to adapt to the way people play him and you can do that without sacrificing your athletic ability.
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Not only can he stay this path, he absolutely needs to stay the path and that's what Hardy and the team wants him to do. Trying to turn him into a trad 5, banging bodies in the post would be immensely stupid - and that's already been tried with awful results. Lauri is an All Star because of his movement and shooting.

What the Jazz can do is acquire some competent players so every opponent can't focus 100 % on stopping Lauri.

Lauri can continue to build on his agility, endurance, balance, core strength etc. None of that requires adding weight or muscle mass, and probably hurts those causes.

He would be able to do more with a better handle, being able to dribble and move from a lower stance. He plays quite upright and his handle is somewhat loose, which leads to some turnovers and lack of confidence in those moves.
 
Tanktastic said:
You were asking him to bulk up 15 pounds. Adding 15 pounds of muscle in one summer is pretty much impossible. Even taking all the PEDs and doing nothing but trying to build more muscle, it's highly improbable
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No I wasn’t.
Tanktastic said:
Not only can he stay this path, he absolutely needs to stay the path
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Not asking him to change his path just adapt. He needs to be able to push through the physical play. Hes been slowed down hasn’t been as good as he was last year with a more talented team around him.
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
No I wasn’t.

Not asking him to change his path just adapt. He needs to be able to push through the physical play. Hes been slowed down hasn’t been as good as he was last year with a more talented team around him.
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Maybe thats because he had a slightly abnormal offseason?
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
No I wasn’t.

Not asking him to change his path just adapt. He needs to be able to push through the physical play. Hes been slowed down hasn’t been as good as he was last year with a more talented team around him.
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More talented team, lol. He had top 3 playmaking guard last season. JC played big portions like an all star, then there was mostly same than this season - Sexton, KO, better version of Kessler... Fontecchio ofc improved.

EDIT: Sorry, I misread. Forget my comment
 
There is a difference between adding muscle and adding strength. Really though I don't think Lauri needs to add either one. I'd like to see him work on his agility, ball-handling, passing game. He's got scoring down-pat, he would do well to add some KO to his game.
 
Step-Back Lauri said:
More talented team, lol. He had top 3 playmaking guard last season. JC played big portions like an all star, then there was mostly same than this season - Sexton, KO, better version of Kessler... Fontecchio ofc improved.

EDIT: Sorry, I misread. Forget my comment
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My hell fans like you who tether themselves to one player bug me. Everything you just said is absolute crap, so I’m just not going to waste my time with u. You act as though I’m attacking Markkanen when nothing could be farther from the truth
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
My hell fans like you who tether themselves to one player bug me. Everything you just said is absolute crap, so I’m just not going to waste my time with u. You act as though I’m attacking Markkanen when nothing could be farther from the truth
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At least I'm not crap 99% of the time like you, but I guess you have to have hobbies too. Weird one, though
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
No I wasn’t.
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Did someone steal your log-in when you wrote these then?

Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
I think he needs to bulk up a bit, and hopefully the staff sees this.
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Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
Putting on ten fifteen pounds on isn’t going to hurt him
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Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
Hes been slowed down hasn’t been as good as he was last year with a more talented team around him.
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Well, yeah, no ****. Maybe, just maybe, get a better team around him, not worse? Playing with a less talented team doesn't make anything easier for him, it makes everything harder when you're the only focal point of every opponent.
 
Ron Mexico said:
Lauri is probably my favorite Jazz player of all-time. I am glad the Jazz saved his career.

Edit: Gave him a career in the NBA.
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Weird take. Jazz enabled him to become an all-star, but for sure a seven footer with decent efficiency had a long career ahead. He just might have been stuck being a good role player instead of becoming a lock as a starter in any team
 
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