Dillion Jones or Terrence Shannon Jr. would work for me too.
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I haven't heard Jaxson Robinson's name mentioned even in the 2nd round. I rarely am impressed with BYU player's pro chances, but he doesn't suck and has decent size.
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It's official: Jaxson Robinson will not be returning to BYU basketball
Any lingering hope of the reigning Big 12 Sixth Man of the Year returning to BYU became official Tuesday afternoon: Robinson is declaring for the NBA Draft.
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Too inconsistent for a 4 year player and one dimensional offensive game.I haven't heard Jaxson Robinson's name mentioned even in the 2nd round. I rarely am impressed with BYU player's pro chances, but he doesn't suck and has decent size.
It's official: Jaxson Robinson will not be returning to BYU basketball
Any lingering hope of the reigning Big 12 Sixth Man of the Year returning to BYU became official Tuesday afternoon: Robinson is declaring for the NBA Draft.
There's potential there, but he's probably undrafted or picked in the 50s.
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I’m looking forward to the draft again. It’s exciting but hardly ever easy because it’s not how these guys play now but how they play a few years from now. I’ve followed these kids quite a bit, and for me, Reed Sheppard is the player I’d love to have for the Jazz in this year’s draft because already at a young age he has that uncanny feel for the game, how he can read it and manipulate it. And because I want the Jazz to build a highly efficient 3-shooting team that, like the current Celtics, relies on ball-movement and drive-and-kicks to get the ball to open 3-point shooters, Sheppard as a playmaker PG and a good 3-point shooter (and not a driver-to-the-trees) is my number 1 target in this year’s draft (if he’s still available when it’s our turn). Another guy I believe will be a great player is Sarr, but he will most likely be out of reach for us as he's probably the first player off the board.
To answer this and your previous question. I like Reed just not with the Guards we have on our roster. Reed is not a PG he's a short combo guard just like Sexton, Keyonte (a little taller at 6'4) and Jordan. Reed is literally 6'3 same height as Sexton and JC. We already have to hide them on defense, and none of them can guard multiple positions. Reed presents the same issues. I like him and I'm sure the Jazz see where he brings value, but ultimately I believe the case is weak if Topic, Castle or Risacher or another top wing is on the board. Our Front Office wants positional size. We just tried to trade up from Black in last years draft. Heck our top pick was a 6'9 Wing that can guard multiple positions.
underdog
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You mention our guards, but I’m not thinking of our current team. I’m talking about building a championship contender within the next 3 years, and Sexton and Clarkson wouldn’t be starters in it for me. Keyonte might be, depending on his development, but I believe Sheppard’s chances of becoming an efficient, playmaking PG is better than Keonte’s.
Bawse Dawg
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Not drafting someone based fit with the current Jazz roster is a terrible way to approach this draft. There is no nucleus to build around. Acquire. Talent.
HermanG
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Are you talking about fit or overlap?
Fit you absolutely have to worry about, since if you draft a guy who is a terrible fit you also put that drafted player in a bad position both in terms of getting minutes from Hardy and being successful on the court in those minutes.
Overlap you cannot worry about too much, as long as you dont develop massive logjams. Nothing wrong with some healthy competition.
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Id argue that overlap is a bigger concern than fit.
Issue is talent is not objective and it's not clear, but fit can be.
Bawse Dawg
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I mean, if you don't wanna take Dillingham that's fine. But even that would be more about what I think he can (or can't) be in the league. And less because I think he would be redundant with Sexton or Clarkson, who we have no clue if they will even be here.
If there was a perfect Lauri clone in this draft I'd take that player #1 still.
But really I am alluding to the talk about Sheppard not fitting in with our roster. I asked for clarification yesterday and didn't see anything. On top of the fact that not drafting Sheppard because of our current roster is a really stupid decision. I still have no idea what is meant when people say he's not a good fit, there is overlap, etc. with the current roster. Who the hell is like Sheppard on the current roster? We have a surplus of perimeter defense and shooting or something?
Like we can probably fit another Taylor Hendricks or Keyonte esque player on the team, but should we? That's were overlap is a concern to me. You want your roster to be versatile and if you have multiple guys who have the same strengths/weaknesses you are going to be an easier matchup for opponents.
The only clearly objective argument against drafting Shep/Dillingham is size. You just don't want too many of those guys on one team. Keyonte is on the border of size next to him being a concern and Sexton definitely is.
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Yeah and the more I look at the draft the more I am thinking that if we landed 2-4 and got a good offer to move back to 6-9 I would be inclined to take that offer.
With Topic, Dilly, Clingan, Sarr I think the bar has to be a little higher to draft them over the wings and Shep (who I think fits with a lot of different types of players). Fit/role I think with those guys mean you need to really believe in them. With true centers and ball in hand guys that might be defensive liabilities I think the talent level just has to be higher if you are drafting over the wings that should fit with anyone you get or draft in the next few years. You aren't drafting for fit per se... you are drafting for future flexibility.
Like you just can't have a defense at the quality level of the Wolves without elite size across the board. Conley is a rare exception because of insanely high IQ and exceptional wingspan to height ratio. And to make up for Conley everyone else is at elite length/size measurements
Like Beal fits on the Suns, but the overlap is heavy and it makes him essentially wasted. His value is essentially the same as Grayson Allen's
Bawse Dawg
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Admittedly, I thought he was a bit more than 6'3". And Keyonte being 6'4" according to Google is hard to believe honestly. Measurements seem more unreliable than ever. I'd love a few more inches on Sheppard in that case. But a 6'4" (if true) and 6'3" backcourt I think is okay. But you have helped me understand the argument a bit better, so thanks.